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Originally Posted by Boss330
Of course pads are a very important part of any brake system. The point here was to test the performance of BBK's as delivered on the market by the suppliers. That's what the customers get and that represents the real world performance of these kits. If they all should have been tested with a pad that was not supplied with the BBK, how would that be representative of what a customer can choose from? For instance the PFC has a limited availability of brake pads, because of it's design. Should every BBK be tested with a compound that was available for the PFC, but one that neither of the other BBK manufactures recommends or markets?
That would be like testing all cars in a comparison test on the same type and brand of tire, even though the manufacturer doesn't actually sell the car with those tires...
IMO, what they have done here is to test a complete product, available to the customer over the counter.
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Originally Posted by s85e90
That (as stated) would defeat the purpose of the test. The test was conducted with the supplied pads, the pads you would get if purchased. The constant is the test vehicle.
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If the purpose of the study was to test out-of-the-box performance, then it shouldn't be used as a commentary on the absolute performance of the different BBKs. If you want to compare absolute performance, you have to use the same pads, fluid, tires, and surface.
In any event, I'm not sure why anyone would give two shits which one provides better out-of-the-box performance when one of the most critical components to performance (pads) is a consumable item that is likely to be upgraded when it needs replacing.
A magazine might compare two different cars and conclude that one handles a little better than the other. If the difference was thought to be attributable to the difference in the two cars' tires, I wouldn't let that stop me from buying the car with the worse tires assuming there were other aspects of the car that I liked better and the difference in handling could, in fact, be remedied with better tires.
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Originally Posted by Boss330
As far as I'm concerned, there is no reason to question a correct installation of any of the BBKs. As I wrote previously, they describe in detail how they followed even the bedding in procedures with typical German precision. They had top notch personell and a brake specialist present for the test.
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Originally Posted by Boss330
And they bled the Brembo's twice because they thought it was not bled properly. If they managed to install every one of the other BBK's correctly, why should they suddenly be incapable of installing just one of the BBK's?
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Sounds to me like even the people running the test thought that they might have messed up the install. What do you think is more likely: a defect in install, manufacture, or design of the Brembo brakes?