Quote:
Originally Posted by mirob
This is too funny...just had to chime in...LOL...
I don't think anyone is questioning the steering of the F80/82...pretty sure it can turn around corners...the point being made is that compared to an E46 M3...the feel, or the lack thereof, is laughable...I think that's the point Obioban was trying to get across.
With that said, I'm pretty sure that EVERY SINGLE automotive journalist has ragged on the steering feel of the F80/82 compared to the E46 or E90/92 M3...or anything BMW M has done in the past (hydraulically). Matter of fact, even compared to some of its competition, BMWs EPS is found lacking in every aspect...
|
Yeah no...we all knew what he meant and you'd be wrong with your last comment, no one is praising it as the greatest steering on the face of the planet, but it's generally favorable aside from the lack of direct feedback since its.....electronic.
Jalopnik:
Quote:
|
I have a bit of a gripe, and it's not with this car. It's with the immediate stance that electric power steering is bad power steering. I postulate that bad power steering is bad power steering, hydraulic or electric. The new M3 has EPAS, and it's one of the best implementations of electric assist yet, and is definitely better than the hydraulic steering in something like the Jaguar F-Type.
|
http://jalopnik.com/2015-bmw-m3-the-...iew-1635342844
NYT:
Quote:
|
“Distant” also describes the steering sensations. Yet the steering is so agile, smartly weighted and accurate, and the cars so cemented and confident, that a lack of pure fingertip feel is quickly forgiven.
|
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/28/au...d-m4.html?_r=0
Motor Trend:
Quote:
|
On the road, both sedan and coupe drive virtually identically. Both are extremely focused and an astonishing amount of fun to drive. The ride is very firm, even in the softest Comfort setting. Sport + is really too firm for most back roads and the uneven surfaces that come with them. That said, the cars remain incredibly flat (helped no doubt by those beefy, hollow anti-roll bars) to the degree that there’s really no perceptible roll on the street. Though it’s somewhat a foregone conclusion with so many cars in the age of electric steering, feel from behind the wheel is a little disappointing. Precision and weighting are excellent in Sport + mode, but there’s just not a huge indication of what’s happening at the front tires’ contact patches.
|
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2015-...m4-first-test/
Car and Driver:
Quote:
|
The skidpad figure translates to grip that’s easily exploited in real-world conditions, and a rear subframe bolted directly to the structure—no bushings here, man—provides ample feedback about the rear-end’s behavior at the limit. This is good, because as we’ve noted before, very little information makes its way to the driver via the steering wheel. The steering otherwise is quick, linear, and responsive . . . but it’s numb. For this reason, we preferred the steering’s Comfort mode even during strafing runs, as going more aggressive doesn’t seem to benefit turn-in, and stepping up in weight just makes changing direction more of a chore for the driver.
|
http://www.caranddriver.com/bmw/m3
Chris Harris (steering at the 2 min mark, he believes its better than the E9x M3):
Top Gear:
Quote:
|
But it doesn’t really matter because both are a hoot to drive. Let’s not get into actual steering feel as that seems to be a thing of the past now everyone is using some kind of electrical assistance on the racks. The M3 - as long as you avoid either Comfort mode (too much assistance) or Sport Plus (too little) – does a pretty good job in Sport of being accurate, well weighted and giving you confidence in the front end. Which, to be fair, sticks like glue.
|
http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/b...ct/first-drive
Plus the M3 is generally favored over it's competition so yes while the steering doesn't provide as much feed back as a lot of hydraulic power steering counterparts, people like to blow it out of proportion to convince themselves that their car is better.