Fine, if you want to go on the attack....
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Originally Posted by davis449
I am curious exactly where you and the rest that hold your same\similar opinion get off declaring it's "unprofessional" for a "Director" or "someone of 'that' level" to give less than three weeks to a month's notice. This is business and two weeks is the standard across the board. For the record, I have seen VP's, SVP's, etc. give two weeks notice and continue on with their references and fine careers. Officer of the company is the only position where I might see it as a bad move, but even then...
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I'd ask you what you do Mr. Blue Collar, but its the internets and you'd lie. What pray tell is an "Officer" of the company as you so eloquently put it? Two weeks is not the standard across the board. In fact, a number of contracts that I've seen require more notice than that for Director type positions. Just because you've "seen" VP's and SVP's give two weeks notice doesn't mean they didn't give notice earlier to those affected privately. You just may not have found out about it until two weeks prior. Of course, they also could have only given two weeks notice - I don't pretend to know their situation.
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Originally Posted by davis449
Employers these days don't pay that courtesy to their employees for fuck's sake. I've seen this level people laid off\let go\etc with a week's notice or less before. This notion of 1 month's notice is just ridiculous. Two weeks is more than enough courtesy to let a company know they need to get their ass in gear and find a replacement. "Professionalism" is a two way street. What year do you live in? 1965?
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Really - please elaborate oh omniscient one. State people, their title, and the length of severance they got. Guess what...anyone in a more senior position is going to immediately get a lawyer if they are not getting enough notice by law. They know what is being offered to those below them and around them...they aren't going to take one week. Nor will the company wish to engage in a fight over it - much easier for the company to offer a little more and the employee goes away happy, rather than fight and risk paying the employee a lot more in severance plus legal costs.
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Originally Posted by davis449
If you really think that's unprofessional and are taken so far aback by a two weeks notice from any position, I'd be willing to bet you're the type or senior level person that people up and leave you and not necessarily the company to pursue better opportunities. Ever heard the expression "Employees leave bosses, not the company"?
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No...I'm around the level we are talking about (again, I'll re-emphasize for you as you seem to keep dragging this down to entry level jobs and blue collar work - understandable as that's probably where you are). So anyone at my level leaving with two weeks notice isn't going to offend me, nor are they leaving because of me (since I'm not their boss). Nonetheless, unless they want to burn bridges, I don't see them leaving with two weeks notice...just talking about industry standard.
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Originally Posted by davis449
How do you know they couldn't let him go without paying him out? Do you know he has a contract that specifies a severance package? Do you know what the specific terms of said contract are if it even exists? You make quite a lot of assumptions here.
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Everyone up here is entitled to severance after working for a set period of time. He may or may not be entitled. This is the first thing I agree with you on - I did make an assumption that he would be entitled to some severance, but you'll note that I asked "How much severance would he be entitled to".
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Originally Posted by davis449
Sounds to me like you like to set yourself up to get fucked more than anything. Who says you can't "be decent about it" by handing in (in person) a letter of resignation two weeks to your quit date?  |
No, I'm just comfortable in the fact that I offer enough value to the Company that I work for that they don't wish to axe me earlier...in fact they wish I would stay rather than leave. Perhaps your experience differs and the companies you work for are thanking their lucky stars to be rid of you and can't wait for you to leave.