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I wouldn't think of an F430/458 as competitors to the R8, with either engine. They're double the cost and a lot more likely to be weekend only cars.
The beauty of the R8 (I've driven a V8 manual and just been around the block in a V10 with the stupid flappy paddles) is that it's meant to be a daily driver and not as much of a hooligan as the weekend only cars. The most direct comparable cars are the non GT 911's and the Maserati and compared to those, the R8 is pretty strong, if not the strongest. Of course, ignoring the price difference, it even compares fairly well to a 599 GTB.
I just think you're comparing things that aren't really directly comparable. If I were shopping for an F458, I wouldn't consider an R8 for a second, and the reverse is true too.
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