[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

How could you come up with that when the average GTI goes for high 20's and this car adds AWD, more power and even more equipment. You expected it to be 30k???? Also how could it cost less than the previous R32's? I never understand some peoples thinking.

The R32 had a completely different engine than the GTI where this is essentially a tuned variant (with a larger turbo). The AWD system is far from stellar as well and many people feel that it handles more like FWD than a true AWD. My fully loaded (ex Nav) 5dr GTI was $28k, a very steep price for a hot hatch but also a cut above in interior look (I won't say quality as most VWs wear heavily after 5+ years). This car is nearly $10k more? It's my belief that it should have topped out at $35k with the 3dr at $33k at most. I love the look of VWs and loved my GTI but at $40k after taxes, steep is an understatement.

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

The R32 had a completely different engine than the GTI where this is essentially a tuned variant (with a larger turbo). The AWD system is far from stellar as well and many people feel that it handles more like FWD than a true AWD. My fully loaded (ex Nav) 5dr GTI was $28k, a very steep price for a hot hatch but also a cut above in interior look (I won't say quality as most VWs wear heavily after 5+ years). This car is nearly $10k more? It's my belief that it should have topped out at $35k with the 3dr at $33k at most. I love the look of VWs and loved my GTI but at $40k after taxes, steep is an understatement.

35k less 5k=$30k

If every other R Product golf before this cost more than 30k (one of them 8 years ago BTW)how could you have thought this one would cost less than an 8 year old model did new. Thats the part that confused me. It is expensive thats for sure I am not arguing that at all but high 30's for the evo with leather and loaded is very overpriced also IMO. To me those 2 cars show what a great deal a Mustang GT is. I know its a totally different car but its still less than the other cars.

[KingOfJericho]

That's all you're mad about? I have since clarified my price talk. You're getting worked up like you priced this car yourself!

[M3Bahn]

The Golf and Mini are both great bang for buck fun cars to drive. I really like the spacious cabin in the Golf. I agree the R32 seems expensive but these models do hold on to their value pretty well.

Maybe a used R32 would be the way to go?

[Artmasterx]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Some of us occasionally make mistakes like thinking that car companies might actually learn something. The last shit box R32 didn't sell, largely due to the price and the lame DSG, locally they had $5k incentives and still sat on the lot.


While many GTI's sticker for close to $30k, most don't sell for sticker. Aside from Haldex, what does the US Golf R add over an Autobahn package GTI? There certainly doesn't appear to be $7k worth of difference. Our version doesn't get the seats, LED tail lights or suspension of the Euro version, so why is it so expensive? If the base were around $32k and the fluffed up versions were closer to $34k, this might make sense, but the current pricing totally misses the mark.

The weak dollar's a bitch, ain't it?

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Artmasterx

The weak dollar's a bitch, ain't it?

Not really, we typically can buy European cars at nearly parity with the Euro, the Golf R just isn't playing along.

[M3Bahn]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Not really, we typically can buy European cars at nearly parity with the Euro, the Golf R just isn't playing along.

It's a very low volume car so they have to make it up somewhere.