BMW Z4 GTE Debuts, Replacing M3 GT in ALMS - Page 3

RingMeister01 · 02-13-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenkirby21

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Originally Posted by Jason

Some live sights and sounds:

why does the Z4 sound so different than the M3? The M3 is screaming in the video!

Probably an audio edit to help the viewer decipher the two different cars . The M3 sounds raw while the Z4 sounds advanced and refined. In reality the two cars will sound slightly different from the tweaks the factory have made but you'd have to have a good ear to notice the difference.

1MOREMOD · 02-13-2013, 11:54 PM

one of each please.

Evice · 02-14-2013, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by speedfan

Tyres: Michelin, front axle: 300-680-18, rear axle: 310-710-18

Can somebody explain the tire side please?

300in is the width. the next number is measurement for the tire's sidewall, which is the percentage of the tire's width.
So, according to my calculation, the tire's sidewall is 2,040in tall. WTH?!?! *confused*

That's for DOT tires, not slicks.

Also guys, Z4 GT3 and Z4 GTE are greatly different at this point. The preparation rules are different, and it almost creates $200k difference in the bill, GTE being higher. Think of 911 GT3 R or Cup vs. the 911 GT3 RSR...RSR is manically wider.

Rolitto · 02-14-2013, 11:08 AM

Why is the new Z4 GTE 4.4 litre 480 hp instead of 4.0 litre 500 hp fitted previously in the M3 GT?

Kinder · 02-14-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rolitto

Why is the new Z4 GTE 4.4 litre 480 hp instead of 4.0 litre 500 hp fitted previously in the M3 GT?

Because it's the current engine of the Z4 GT3 (515ps max), as the GTE is a modified version of the GT3.

mapezzul · 02-14-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M3_WC

False.

Not according to the ALMS rules book, section 5.5 (page 201). Turbo/Supercharged engines are allowed.

So BMW doesn't have an excuse. They want to go to an all FI lineup in the showrooms, then have some balls and run it at the track now.

Other brands should take advantage of all the waivers BMW got. Benz should convert their SLS GT3 over to GTE spec.

The stock engine does not have a direct linkage to the fuel supply secondary to the direct injection and turbo systems which would not be allowed with the rules, and dual scrolls (basic explanation) are out and the valvetronic system would need to remain stock... The situation is complicated and is why there is no way BMW could enter a turbo under the current rules (why Porsche doesn't etc.) these rules will be altered by ACO/ALMS moving forward as someone involved with it all explained to me. I'd take these rules with a grain of salt

Corvette and Viper's also have waivers so lets not just say BMW does.

mapezzul · 02-14-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolitto

Why is the new Z4 GTE 4.4 litre 480 hp instead of 4.0 litre 500 hp fitted previously in the M3 GT?

The M3 had larger surface area so was allowed more HP.

M3_WC · 02-14-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mapezzul

The stock engine does not have a direct linkage to the fuel supply secondary to the direct injection and turbo systems which would not be allowed with the rules, and dual scrolls (basic explanation) are out and the valvetronic system would need to remain stock... The situation is complicated and is why there is no way BMW could enter a turbo under the current rules (why Porsche doesn't etc.) these rules will be altered by ACO/ALMS moving forward as someone involved with it all explained to me. I'd take these rules with a grain of salt

Concessions will be made to assist brands to run FI if they choose. They will need the help to compete against the big displacement normally aspirated competition. Even if BMW ran a FI setup now, they would get their asses handed to them by the competition.

There is no reason to go FI in a series that regulates power output. If you can make your HP normally aspirated, it is much more reliable for endurance racing. Porsche is more than happy running NA and will with the 991 in competition. They are known for their reliability, especially at the 24hrs.

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Corvette and Viper's also have waivers so lets not just say BMW does.

Are they running two extra cylinders?

Terrible analogies if you ask me.

spacemonkey1112 · 02-14-2013, 11:01 PM

Here is stance work's coverage of the z4 GTE! Beautiful Shots I have to admit

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Wesley Crusher · 02-15-2013, 01:22 AM

Tapatio · 02-15-2013, 10:26 AM

Does the top still fold down?

mdosu · 02-20-2013, 10:31 PM

an M3 race car in Z4 clothing.

nbennettksu · 02-22-2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

I dream of a V8 Z4M Coupe.

E9TOU · 02-22-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by spacemonkey1112

Here is stance work's coverage of the z4 GTE! Beautiful Shots I have to admit

Great pics! Thanks for sharing.

bimmerJP · 02-22-2013, 11:15 AM

So it's not exactly a FMR layout?

StevenY. · 02-22-2013, 11:32 AM

Looks so good, I love the shot of the engine bay.

Lemon Jelly M3 · 02-22-2013, 11:37 AM

BMW M should've made the Z4M limited production version (like 1M)
This Z is one of the most beautiful BMWs ever made, really sad to let this one go without the M version.

E39hijinks · 02-22-2013, 01:14 PM

Great looking car. Am extremely offended though that "Stance Works" is taking photos of it. that name should not be anywhere near this car.

Thurman Murch · 02-22-2013, 01:42 PM

So is this car also running Petronas Syntium Racer X1 10W60? I wonder if this is suitable instead of tws

I would like to have my own P65B44

spacemonkey1112 · 02-22-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by E39hijinks

Great looking car. Am extremely offended though that "Stance Works" is taking photos of it. that name should not be anywhere near this car.

Wait, you don't like the coverage because the photographer's company is called stance works? These guys have been personally invited by BMW to cover ALMS numerous times not only because their work is in a league of their own, but because they have a deep enthusiasm for the company. You should really check out their work before you judge them. Of course they know this car isn't "stanced".

EDIT: they don't just shoot "stanced" cars btw... its just a company name

phrozen06 · 02-22-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by E39hijinks

Great looking car. Am extremely offended though that "Stance Works" is taking photos of it. that name should not be anywhere near this car.

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Originally Posted by spacemonkey1112

Wait, you don't like the coverage because the photographer's company is called stance works? These guys have been personally invited by BMW to cover ALMS numerous times not only because their work is in a league of their own, but because they have a deep enthusiasm for the company. You should really check out their work before you judge them. Of course they know this car isn't "stanced".

EDIT: they don't just shoot "stanced" cars btw... its just a company name

Get the ricer image out of your head. This is a company full of professionals.

matty69b8 · 02-22-2013, 05:36 PM

Batman has his new wheels sorted!!
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02-14-2013, 11:08 AM	#48
Rolitto Second Lieutenant Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Beirut and Canada Posts: 239 iTrader: (0)	Why is the new Z4 GTE 4.4 litre 480 hp instead of 4.0 litre 500 hp fitted previously in the M3 GT?

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Tapatio New Member Drives: 2010 Z4 35i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: So. California Posts: 21 iTrader: (0)	Does the top still fold down?

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bimmerJP First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 e90 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas, the United States of America, Planet Earth, Universe Posts: 347 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [2.50]	So it's not exactly a FMR layout?

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StevenY. ///M Drives: 10' SG e92 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 829 iTrader: (0)	Looks so good, I love the shot of the engine bay.

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Lemon Jelly M3 Lieutenant Drives: M3 (E90,ZCP,6MT) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 454 iTrader: (0)	BMW M should've made the Z4M limited production version (like 1M) This Z is one of the most beautiful BMWs ever made, really sad to let this one go without the M version.

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E39hijinks EUROFTW Drives: E30 E36 E46 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 179 iTrader: (0)	Great looking car. Am extremely offended though that "Stance Works" is taking photos of it. that name should not be anywhere near this car.

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Thurman Murch Private First Class Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Island in the sun Posts: 113 iTrader: (0)	So is this car also running Petronas Syntium Racer X1 10W60? I wonder if this is suitable instead of tws I would like to have my own P65B44

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matty69b8 335i TORQUE!!!!!!!!! Drives: E92 335i Coupe Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: South west Posts: 45 iTrader: (0)	Batman has his new wheels sorted!! Ã°