[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

...from experience for being arrested for the same thing last month...and the month before that?????

Basically!

[Jklotz]

Originally Posted by packet

Murf, Sedan - this news just broke: https://apple.news/AG5ge82oERxuQC8gN-35fMw

Headline: B.C. to decriminalize possession of small amounts of ‘hard’ drugs such as cocaine, fentanyl and heroin

Effective Jan. 31, 2023, British Columbians 18 and older will be able to carry up to a cumulative total of 2.5 grams of these illicit substances without the risk of arrest or criminal charges. Police are not to confiscate the drugs, and there is no requirement that people found to be in possession seek treatment. The production, trafficking and exportation of these drugs will remain illegal.

Thoughts as cops?

These drug laws just confound me. I mean, you have have it, you can use it, no problem. But you can't make it, buy it, sell it or transport it. It's crazy if you ask me.

I'm, generally speaking, fairly liberal about some things, but when it comes to cocaine, fentanyl and heroin (and the like), these are things that can kill people and are highly addictive. IMHO, that law revision is against the best interest of the people, user or not. I don't see that ending well.

[iminhell1]

I read through this topic from time to time. I'd just like to say that I wish there was a wider reach to this type of police/public interaction. It really looks like it's good for the mental health of both. The officer can vent with some anonymity and so can the public.

Thank you.

[chowser51]

337 days to go for me.
Our agency is basically only arrest for felonies or DV misdemeanors, everyone else gets a personal bond or citation.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by chowser51

337 days to go for me.
Our agency is basically only arrest for felonies or DV misdemeanors, everyone else gets a personal bond or citation.

That's more or less where we are. Our state just reduced what constitutes a robbery, so what was previously deemed a robbery is now just petty/grand theft.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by iminhell1

I read through this topic from time to time. I'd just like to say that I wish there was a wider reach to this type of police/public interaction. It really looks like it's good for the mental health of both. The officer can vent with some anonymity and so can the public.

Thank you.

It's hard(er) to bridge this gap when you're currently serving/active, but easier once you've retired or have left the field; you can speak freely and you don't represent any department.

[H2O_Doc]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

We are constantly releasing people from our jails. Furthermore, inmates have more rights while incarcerated than those who are free.

Part of the problem is that our prisons focus too much on retribution and not enough on rehabilitation. We are, not in a good way, a gross outlier when it comes to recidivism and that is because of approach to incarceration. I'm not asking anyone to feel sorry for the incarcerated, but from a strictly economical standpoint, we could do better with better prison policies. What we do too often is create better an more violent criminals with little chance of becoming productive citizens. Sure, it feels great to give somebody a life sentence under three strikes for stealing a piece of pizza, but maybe that's not in anyone's best interest. I know lots of people take deep offense when criminals learn life skills and get their GEDs behind bars when they could be sharpening shanks, but the economics of all of this is really inverted.

I'm not talking about creating a day spa for people that have done awful things, I'm talking about taking the time to understand the consequences of our vengeful indifference and maybe approaching incarceration policy from an evidence based approach that might actually be broadly beneficial.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by H2O_Doc

Part of the problem is that our prisons focus too much on retribution and not enough on rehabilitation. We are, not in a good way, a gross outlier when it comes to recidivism and that is because of approach to incarceration. I'm not asking anyone to feel sorry for the incarcerated, but from a strictly economical standpoint, we could do better with better prison policies. What we do too often is create better an more violent criminals with little chance of becoming productive citizens. Sure, it feels great to give somebody a life sentence under three strikes for stealing a piece of pizza, but maybe that's not in anyone's best interest. I know lots of people take deep offense when criminals learn life skills and get their GEDs behind bars when they could be sharpening shanks, but the economics of all of this is really inverted.

I'm not talking about creating a day spa for people that have done awful things, I'm talking about taking the time to understand the consequences of our vengeful indifference and maybe approaching incarceration policy from an evidence based approach that might actually be broadly beneficial.

Way too much ridiculously silly rhetoric here. Have you ever worked in a jail or prison? Are you familiar with the programs offered in those facilities? How much experience do you personally have dealing with inmates? The answer to those questions will reveal to me whether or not I can have a serious discussion with you about what is realistic reform and what is just virtue signaling platitudes. I've spent years working in that environment. Very few of those people can be reformed.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

It's hard(er) to bridge this gap when you're currently serving/active, but easier once you've retired or have left the field; you can speak freely and you don't represent any department.

It's ok Brian, we won't reveal that you work for Shasta PD

[iminhell1]

LOL

[Sedan_Clan]

https://www.tiktok.com/@stephenunlea...Ulxt4&_r=1

I think he just about covered every angle.

[iminhell1]

"... only in the last 20 years have we had mass shootings ..."

I know a lot of Natives that would argue against that statement.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by iminhell1

"... only in the last 20 years have we had mass shootings ..."

I know a lot of Natives that would argue against that statement.

In context he is spot on.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

In context he is spot on.

I watched that video. Who is that rugged/handsome looking guy in the uniform?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Esteban

I watched that video. Who is that rugged/handsome looking guy in the uniform?

Brian from Shasta P.D.

[vreihen16]

You can't make this stuff up.....

Harris man arrested after doing ‘donuts’ in sheriff’s parking lot


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[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

You can't make this stuff up.....

Harris man arrested after doing 'donuts' in sheriff's parking lot


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All that and he was out on ROR.

[BMWGUYinCO]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

All that and he was out on ROR.

"He was charged with the felonies of reckless endangerment and criminal mischief, and the misdemeanors of reckless endangerment, menacing, and reckless driving.

Deputies also learned that Aronovich has robbery and assault charges pending in New York City."

FFS!

[cmyx6go]

Pretty screwed up in Seattle. Two different takes on the same issue - They stopped investigating new sexual assault cases.


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...0stark%20terms.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-p...exual-assaults

[Jklotz]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

https://www.tiktok.com/@stephenunlea...oXu0Ulxt4&_r=1

I think he just about covered every angle.

I watched the video. One thing that struck me was his comment to hire vets to guard schools. Finally, a solution! I'm not saying that is the perfect solution, but I like the fact that it is solution oriented. I mean if we are going to complain about the issues, why not at least try to come up with a way to fix them instead of just blaming the opposing party?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Jklotz

I watched the video. One thing that struck me was his comment to hire vets to guard schools. Finally, a solution! I'm not saying that is the perfect solution, but I like the fact that it is solution oriented. I mean if we are going to complain about the issues, why not at least try to come up with a way to fix them instead of just blaming the opposing party?

Agreed! ….and we always talk about how we offer our vets nothing after they've served. That is a job that presumably applies their skills to the civilian world.

[sygazelle]

Road rage gone bad. Who goes to jail in this situation?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-cap...150500164.html