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      06-03-2014, 08:30 AM   #23
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      06-03-2014, 08:49 AM   #24
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98 Shell or Esso .(Euro/Spec)
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      06-03-2014, 09:10 AM   #25
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I've been running Shell V-Power 93 octane and no problems

this is what Shell website says.

•It’s the only premium that Ferrari chooses for improved performance
•Shell V-Power Premium Gasoline exceeds the stringent requirements of the world’s top automakers – Audi, BMW, General Motors, Honda, Toyota and Volkswagen – and is certified as a top tier Detergent Gasoline
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      06-03-2014, 10:34 AM   #26
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93.

BTW, the BMW "Supplementary Owner's Manual" states the following:

"Required fuel
Super Premium Gasoline/AKI 93
Always use this premium grade fuel to obtain maximum fuel economy and performance.
The minimum approved fuel grade is AKI 91.
Do not use any gasoline below the specified minimum fuel grade. Otherwise the engine could be damaged."
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      06-03-2014, 04:50 PM   #27
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91 as I'm in Cali. Would use 93 if I were in a different state.
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      06-03-2014, 05:10 PM   #28
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      06-03-2014, 05:13 PM   #29
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Here in Alberta Canada. I believe only Petro 91 and Shell 91 are ethanol free. I always use Husky or Petro 94 (up to 10%) on all my cars.
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      06-03-2014, 05:16 PM   #30
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94 octane, ethanol free in British Columbia.
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      06-03-2014, 05:23 PM   #31
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      06-03-2014, 06:18 PM   #32
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91 piss cali gas

should i put in 2 gallons every tank of 100 to help out? sigh
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      06-03-2014, 08:33 PM   #33
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I set the bone stock e9X M3 dyno record at 366 RWHP on Cali 91 octane gas back in Sept 2013.

So 91 is fine for a stock motor.
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      06-03-2014, 09:37 PM   #34
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Honestly if you never see any hard driving than 91 is fine. If you drive hard 93 is extra protection. But to save a few bucks? Seems the M3 is a bit too much car for you cost wise
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      06-03-2014, 09:52 PM   #35
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On track days, mix in 100 unleaded at the pump to get to avg of 93 octane. Otherwise its 91 Cali gas.
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      06-04-2014, 06:36 AM   #36
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California is so p*ssy with all their emission laws and other bs. Jeez i thought ny was bad. At any rate, dont be cheap. 93 octane is optimal.
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      06-04-2014, 07:16 AM   #37
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Over her BMWs rec is 98 with 95 as absolute min. I use typically 99. Puzzled over the way to measure octane in Europe vs US as the car can't coop with the 89-93 but seems to be either different market car tune or way to spec the fuel...
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Over her BMWs rec is 98 with 95 as absolute min. I use typically 99. Puzzled over the way to measure octane in Europe vs US as the car can't coop with the 89-93 but seems to be either different market car tune or way to spec the fuel...
Its a different rating system. I believe European 98ron is equivalent to 93 octane in US.
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      06-04-2014, 08:07 AM   #39
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If you pay $1 more per gallon, over 100,000 miles it's going to cost you about $6,000 more.
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      06-04-2014, 05:26 PM   #40
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91 is highest here. I use 91
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      06-05-2014, 03:03 AM   #41
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91 Octane...stup1d laws in California..especially environments...The state could have collect more tax from 93 octane and use it to fund environmental system rather than setting pu$$y laws unlike other states..
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      06-05-2014, 07:59 AM   #42
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I remember reading in the BMW guide that the absolute minimum octane rating should be 89 (I could be wrong on this as well).
I believe the manual says the minimum is 91. As 91 is not available here in the woods, I use 93. In a $70k+ very high-performance car, I would never risk using anything below the manufacturers specification.

On the other hand, I doubt that any car designed for street use and without significant ($$$$) engine modifications will benefit in the slightest from 100 octane or higher.
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      06-05-2014, 09:21 AM   #43
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The information I learned from my longtime friend who now runs a dealership (so take that with a grain of salt) is that even though the Owner's Manual recommends a minimun rating of 91, the cars are engineered based on the expectation that no one will actually follow that advice and tuned so the engine will accept 85-87 range gas. (U.S.) As a result, the additional octane is kind of wasted (performance wise) on this engine unless it's tuned. The rub there, of course, is some claim that you've "damaged" the engine by running a lower spec fuel.
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      06-05-2014, 09:27 AM   #44
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I use 93 Octance - usually Shell. I suspect the BMW recommendation of BP is likely marketing-driven; i.e. some type of "partnership". I wish I could find good ethanol-free gas here in Southwest Florida. The only ethanol-free gas I can find within like 50 miles is 90 octane. There is literally one station I could find.

Does anyone know of a good way to locate ethanol-free stations? The only places I could find only showed the one.
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