General Election

RobUK · 10-30-2019, 06:33 PM

Lib Dems for me this time around, but it does rather feel like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Scoobyd · 10-30-2019, 06:44 PM

Conservative. The only way we can get through this impasse is with a majority government once again and the Conservatives are the only party with any chance of getting one. A hung parliament would just lead to more of the same that we've suffered enough with over the last 3.5 years. Time to move on.

Plus love him or hate him this rhetoric I often see about Boris being 'far right' is bizarre. He's a pretty liberal conservative and most of what was announced in the Queen's Speech re our domestic agenda was all positive stuff that I'm sure most on here would be on board with.

mcoops · 10-31-2019, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoobyd

Conservative. The only way we can get through this impasse is with a majority government once again and the Conservatives are the only party with any chance of getting one. A hung parliament would just lead to more of the same that we've suffered enough with over the last 3.5 years. Time to move on.

Plus love him or hate him this rhetoric I often see about Boris being 'far right' is bizarre. He's a pretty liberal conservative and most of what was announced in the Queen's Speech re our domestic agenda was all positive stuff that I'm sure most on here would be on board with.

You're kidding, right? Boris is a cockroach with no compass beyond what is good for Boris. He has selected some policies designed to broaden his electability, after having earlier described Muslim women as looking like letterboxes. Super liberal. Vote for him by all means if he serves your interests, but let's not pretend he has any sort of integrity.

goodbyalfa · 10-31-2019, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoobyd

Conservative. The only way we can get through this impasse is with a majority government once again and the Conservatives are the only party with any chance of getting one. A hung parliament would just lead to more of the same that we've suffered enough with over the last 3.5 years. Time to move on.

Plus love him or hate him this rhetoric I often see about Boris being 'far right' is bizarre. He's a pretty liberal conservative and most of what was announced in the Queen's Speech re our domestic agenda was all positive stuff that I'm sure most on here would be on board with.

You're kidding, right? Boris is a cockroach with no compass beyond what is good for Boris. He has selected some policies designed to broaden his electability, after having earlier described Muslim women as looking like letterboxes. Super liberal. Vote for him by all means if he serves your interests, but let's not pretend he has any sort of integrity.

Whilst I agree with some of this, the comment on letter box reads worse when taken out of context. Read the actual article and it is more a statement about how our society has always been open and how much interaction is lost when you cannot see a face with reaction etc.

However what ever way you stress up this election, the next prime minister will be one of two people and not in this lifetime will I be voting for the starlinist proletarian warrior Corbyn.

mcoops · 10-31-2019, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoobyd

Conservative. The only way we can get through this impasse is with a majority government once again and the Conservatives are the only party with any chance of getting one. A hung parliament would just lead to more of the same that we've suffered enough with over the last 3.5 years. Time to move on.

Plus love him or hate him this rhetoric I often see about Boris being 'far right' is bizarre. He's a pretty liberal conservative and most of what was announced in the Queen's Speech re our domestic agenda was all positive stuff that I'm sure most on here would be on board with.

You're kidding, right? Boris is a cockroach with no compass beyond what is good for Boris. He has selected some policies designed to broaden his electability, after having earlier described Muslim women as looking like letterboxes. Super liberal. Vote for him by all means if he serves your interests, but let's not pretend he has any sort of integrity.

Whilst I agree with some of this, the comment on letter box reads worse when taken out of context. Read the actual article and it is more a statement about how our society has always been open and how much interaction is lost when you cannot see a face with reaction etc.

However what ever way you stress up this election, the next prime minister will be one of two people and not in this lifetime will I be voting for the starlinist proletarian warrior Corbyn.

Agree about Corbyn, 100%.

But you can have a considered view about clashes of culture without stooping to insult and dehumanisation. And of course he knew exactly what he was doing and the instincts he was appealing to.

Goneinsixtyseconds · 10-31-2019, 03:06 AM

It could be worse, Boris' brother. This is funny!

RobUK · 10-31-2019, 03:51 AM

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It could be worse, Boris' brother. This is funny!

Priceless!

mcoops · 10-31-2019, 04:16 AM

This has got me thinking about the difference between Boris and Corbyn, and who is actually worse. It depends on what your criteria are. I reckon Corbyn would be worse for the country, but Boris is a worse human being.

Corbyn is bitter, narrow-minded anachronism. He is a class warfare relic who will always set the poor against everyone else, regardless of talent or effort. This is, though, a fundamentally outward-looking philosophy. I don't think he is in politics for his own enrichment, and never wanted or expected to be leader of his party.

Boris on the other hand is a massive narcissist. It seems to me he is absolutely in it for the exercise of power and to feed his ego. I don't think he gives a stuff about the country or anyone in it, beyond what it takes to cement his authority.

Perversely, I think this makes Corbyn more dangerous. Boris is better tuned to what different sections of the public want to hear, and is therefore more likely to create a more broadly-appealing policy offering than Corbyn, who is a tone-deaf zealot.

What a choice.

DB118D · 10-31-2019, 04:50 AM

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I am more concerned about other - do we have a fan of the wee krankie sturgeon on here...?

F**k no!

Her party banged on about wanting an election, then abstained on the vote for an election

Wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her, an total charlatan and only interested in clinging to power up here

The Salmond trial will end her

Arcticdan · 10-31-2019, 05:14 AM

Where I live Plaid Cymru is a glued on certainty so have spent years just voting what I believe is best for my family if my vote counted, which it won't, but I will not give up my right to vote and tactical voting here is also not an option.

Cannot vote Plaid as I do not agree with the vast majority of their policies.

Will not vote for the communist party, I mean Corbyn!

Would consider liberals if they had a foothold here but they don't and my daughter is at the local university and I still smart from the way they sold out students.

So not left with a lot of options and yes I would prefer a conservative government to a hung or Corbyn led one. Wish there was a better option because nothing is ideal at the moment.

73henny · 10-31-2019, 05:16 AM

Conservative.

Can't see how anyone with a pulse could vote for terrorist lover Corbyn and Abacus.

As for Libdems, they want to overturn democracy, Swinson's husband has money & EU links, and they're a one policy party in any case.

Greens are a waste of fresh air. How ironic.

73henny · 10-31-2019, 05:18 AM

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I am more concerned about other - do we have a fan of the wee krankie sturgeon on here...?

No chance.
The majority of Scots know what a lying hypocrite she is.

Goneinsixtyseconds · 10-31-2019, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RobUK

Priceless!

It really is, it's hard to believe it's real. The man is hilarious.....

Consett Mag · 10-31-2019, 07:13 AM

What a choice we've got! Totally numbed by politics to be honest.
Working in the NHS there's a couple of options out. But thanks to Corbyn, I'm struggling to give to labour.

Watsey · 10-31-2019, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Goneinsixtyseconds

It could be worse, Boris' brother. This is funny!

Very funny. Love that

DB118D · 10-31-2019, 11:53 AM

In Scotland the aim is to extinguish Krankie and her rabble of amateurs, so tactical voting is the way forward

In my case, it's Labour, but it means a vote for Commie Corbyn which brings it's own issues

Wills2 · 10-31-2019, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Goneinsixtyseconds

It could be worse, Boris' brother. This is funny!

Utterly hilarious, you couldn't actually write that stuff.

allachie9 · 10-31-2019, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DB118D

The Salmond trial will end her

Hope you're right.

Dobbins Den · 10-31-2019, 12:33 PM

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Conservative - least worst option from this current shower of shite

Me too

lobeydosser · 10-31-2019, 07:26 PM

The Conservatives have given us, in succession, the three worst PMs in living memory, and Thatcher before that.
What makes anyone think that the next one will be in the least competent?

Vote Monster Raving Loony.

MashinBenzin · 11-01-2019, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lobeydosser

The Conservatives have given us, in succession, the three worst PMs in living memory, and Thatcher before that.
What makes anyone think that the next one will be in the least competent?

Vote Monster Raving Loony.

Cameron was a decent PM in a shit situation from 2010, thanks to Gordon's spend it while the sun shines attitude - Brown never thought a rainy day would come.

Unfortunately, Cameron then bowed to pressure from his party extremists and that brings us to today. His good work destroyed by his own hand.

Blair and Cameron - the two best PMs of my time, their parties are now led by people so far removed from their moderate, stable, approaches. Corbyn is an even bigger bad stretch from Blair than Johnson is from Cameron.

Sad, very very sad.

We need a change and only the Lib Dems having a chunk of power is going to provide a positive one. IMHO.

mcoops · 11-01-2019, 03:59 PM

View Poll Results: Who will you vote for?
Conservative	80	46.78%
Labour	18	10.53%
Lib Dem	57	33.33%
Brexit Party	3	1.75%
Green	1	0.58%
Other	12	7.02%
Voters: 171. You may not vote on this poll

10-30-2019, 06:33 PM	#23
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10-30-2019, 06:44 PM	#24
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10-31-2019, 04:16 AM	#30
mcoops Lieutenant Colonel 1758 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: Short term lease Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: England iTrader: (0)	This has got me thinking about the difference between Boris and Corbyn, and who is actually worse. It depends on what your criteria are. I reckon Corbyn would be worse for the country, but Boris is a worse human being. Corbyn is bitter, narrow-minded anachronism. He is a class warfare relic who will always set the poor against everyone else, regardless of talent or effort. This is, though, a fundamentally outward-looking philosophy. I don't think he is in politics for his own enrichment, and never wanted or expected to be leader of his party. Boris on the other hand is a massive narcissist. It seems to me he is absolutely in it for the exercise of power and to feed his ego. I don't think he gives a stuff about the country or anyone in it, beyond what it takes to cement his authority. Perversely, I think this makes Corbyn more dangerous. Boris is better tuned to what different sections of the public want to hear, and is therefore more likely to create a more broadly-appealing policy offering than Corbyn, who is a tone-deaf zealot. What a choice. __________________
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10-31-2019, 05:14 AM	#32
Arcticdan Private First Class 67 Rep 150 Posts Drives: A car! Join Date: May 2014 Location: North Wales iTrader: (0)	Where I live Plaid Cymru is a glued on certainty so have spent years just voting what I believe is best for my family if my vote counted, which it won't, but I will not give up my right to vote and tactical voting here is also not an option. Cannot vote Plaid as I do not agree with the vast majority of their policies. Will not vote for the communist party, I mean Corbyn! Would consider liberals if they had a foothold here but they don't and my daughter is at the local university and I still smart from the way they sold out students. So not left with a lot of options and yes I would prefer a conservative government to a hung or Corbyn led one. Wish there was a better option because nothing is ideal at the moment.
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10-31-2019, 05:16 AM	#33
73henny Lieutenant Colonel 502 Rep 1,580 Posts Drives: a lovely new G20 320dx Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0)	Conservative. Can't see how anyone with a pulse could vote for terrorist lover Corbyn and Abacus. As for Libdems, they want to overturn democracy, Swinson's husband has money & EU links, and they're a one policy party in any case. Greens are a waste of fresh air. How ironic. __________________ G20 320dx. Every option except a tow bar '20 Subaru XV 2.0. Gone; F30 335dx, F30 330dx, F21 LCI 125d, F48 X1 20dx, F10 520d
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10-31-2019, 07:13 AM	#36
Consett Mag Major 369 Rep 1,409 Posts Drives: F31 330d M Sport Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Durham. UK iTrader: (0)	What a choice we've got! Totally numbed by politics to be honest. Working in the NHS there's a couple of options out. But thanks to Corbyn, I'm struggling to give to labour.
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10-31-2019, 11:53 AM	#38
DB118D Lieutenant Colonel 1041 Rep 1,683 Posts Drives: 118d Sport Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (0)	In Scotland the aim is to extinguish Krankie and her rabble of amateurs, so tactical voting is the way forward In my case, it's Labour, but it means a vote for Commie Corbyn which brings it's own issues
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10-31-2019, 07:26 PM	#42
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