Performance after DCT updates

fredson · 02-22-2010, 05:17 PM

Thanks flapps - will give it a try...

Donbona · 02-23-2010, 04:05 AM

Yeah that happened to mine

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flapps

It may be because when they installed the update it may have changed your settings on Idrive......a few of mine were set back to factory settings, just had to reset. Try resetting your idrive and see what happens.

Flapps

Flapps · 04-21-2010, 02:19 PM

Thought I'd resurrect this post, purely for info in case anyone has had the DCT update:

I went to book an oil change at my local dealers today after the idrive told me it needed one after counting down the mileage for a few weeks. Last week it said I needed it "Urgently". So having got my oil from Opie, went to the dealers explained what I wanted, they then put the key fob into its reader which told them that I had 4900 miles before the oil change was due. Told them what the idrive was telling me and the disparity was clear.

They took the car in, plugged it in and it appeared that when I had the DCT update it must have given the idrive a hissy fit thus giving me two different due dates for oil change. They have reset the settings and the correct reading is now that the oil change is due in 4900 miles, and both fob and idrive are now singing from the same song sheet.

Flapps.

rosino · 06-18-2010, 11:02 AM

hi all... sorry to come back on this but... still cannot get my dealer to upgrade the software of the DCT to the latest one.. despite complaining already twice about the lag. Basically sometimes simply doesn't want to accelerate out of 2nd gear.. hence the lag.. then BOOM burst of acceleration..

I asked them to look at it.. they keep saying M3 are like this and there's nothing they can do about it. I then asked to check at least the software that is on the car at the moment.. and they refuse to do this, worst, they wanted to CHARGE ME to check the software version that is on the car at the moment.

The service advisor was just able to tell me that it had already been upgraded in Feb 09 from E89X-08-09-515 to E89X-08-09-530... so that should be the one I have on at the moment..

Seems there's a much more recent one, can you confirm ? I will have first major service done very soon.. i think i will go to the dealer that guarantees me the upgrade, can't take it anymore..

All advice welcome..

R

dar2008 · 06-21-2010, 05:05 AM

Hi Rosino,

This is a warranty issue and as such will be fixed by any BMW dealership FOC. Which dealer is telling you these porkies? Please name and shame.

I stongly advise you take you car to another dealer who will do the software upgrade under warranty. You may be well advised to contact Anneka at Sytner through the forum. If no joy there then please contact BMW UK and complain as THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE in my opinion!!!

I'm retyping my reply to your initial post on this topic below which as you can see states a new release of the software summer 2009 to which my car was upgraded FOC and is now a pleasure to drive

...

"Just searched out the SIB info and posting it here for you...

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B280708g.htm

This shows that BMW were clearly aware of the problem some time ago. It states categorically "To significantly improve the throttle response (or to reduce "throttle lag"), reprogram the vehicle with the current ISTA/P version (target integration E089-09-03-510 or higher, introduced in ISTA/P 2.33.1)." Have you printed this out and shown the dealer?
Basically this states that the problem is fixed from software version 2.33.1 onwards. I believe mine was updated to 2.34.1 last July and I haven't had the lag issue since and I drive 99% of the time in D2.

Good luck in getting this addressed and as I said in my previous post it's shocking that a BMW dealer can sell the car without this update which addresses a potentially dangerous issue."

Good luck!

zenderm3 · 06-21-2010, 05:11 AM

Do any of you guys have the update from May 2010? If so - can you provide me the version number?

Cheers,
ZenderM3

dar2008 · 06-21-2010, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenderm3

Do any of you guys have the update from May 2010? If so - can you provide me the version number?

Cheers,
ZenderM3

There's another update? For DCT? What is this meant to address?

bobbyd1961 · 06-21-2010, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flapps

Having had the updates for the DCT, thought I give some feedback having blasted from the UK to Paris today............very very little lag in M mode, and on the rare occasion of sitting in default mode, i.e D2, no jerkiness or hesitation

...............yet.........Not seen another M3 in Paris yet either

............obvioulsy the surrender monkeys dont know a good thing when they see one!

Flapps

what was your specific update? thanks

Flapps · 06-27-2010, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyd1961

what was your specific update? thanks

Had mine updated in Feb 2010 and this was the code then: E89X-09-12-512.

It did take overnight to download as it comes in torrents

sorry not a computer geek and Im over 40 and not up to date with this new found technology stuff and nonsense!

There maybe a newer version but not had any problems since so wouldn't really know/

Hope that helps and you should notice a difference.

Flapps

ss134 · 06-27-2010, 07:32 AM

My M3 arrives in 2 weeks time and took a leap of faith with DCT despite having never tested it and having always driven a manual - threads like this are making me a bit nervous!

Do any of you in hindsight wish you had gone 6MT?? (not trying to jack the thread ...a simple yes or no would be great

)

Many thanks

Steve

Donbona · 06-28-2010, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss134

My M3 arrives in 2 weeks time and took a leap of faith with DCT despite having never tested it and having always driven a manual - threads like this are making me a bit nervous!

Do any of you in hindsight wish you had gone 6MT?? (not trying to jack the thread ...a simple yes or no would be great

)

Many thanks

Steve

Dont worry Steve, once you start getting used to it its fine... I would never go back to MT... love the DCT...

ss134 · 06-28-2010, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donbona

Dont worry Steve, once you start getting used to it its fine... I would never go back to MT... love the DCT...

Cheers for the reply mate, how long did it take you to get used to the transmission and is it quite intuitive? My main concern TBH is parking and stop/start speeds through town.

Dougie335 · 06-28-2010, 03:22 PM

The DCT is fine. It takes a little more revs when its cold to engage the clutch but after a mile its just like any other auto. Parking and stop/starts are no problem as the clutch is fully disengaged when you are at a stand still i.e you don't have to hold it on the brake.

Dougie.

AM3 · 06-28-2010, 03:49 PM

Had the manual E92 Nov 09 - Jan 2010
got the one I have now in March - DCT
The gearbox is a peach!
I would never go back to a manual
Bavarian Belfast put the upgrades on before I got the car
thanks to this post I checked with them
A

ss134 · 06-28-2010, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AM3

Had the manual E92 Nov 09 - Jan 2010
got the one I have now in March - DCT
The gearbox is a peach!
I would never go back to a manual
Bavarian Belfast put the upgrades on before I got the car
thanks to this post I checked with them
A

Thats good to hear

Flapps · 06-29-2010, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donbona

Dont worry Steve, once you start getting used to it its fine... I would never go back to MT... love the DCT...

+1

Flapps

Donbona · 06-29-2010, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss134

Cheers for the reply mate, how long did it take you to get used to the transmission and is it quite intuitive? My main concern TBH is parking and stop/start speeds through town.

You get used to it in days.... just fiddle about with the settings until you find something you are comfy with... then when you want balls out just bang everything on full... remember you cant put it into S6 unless you turn off the DSC first.
Through town I normaly keep it in D2 but with the Power button on to give it a little kick.

Hayzi · 09-19-2011, 08:06 AM

Does anyone have the latest SIB for the DCT lag, my car is going in tomorrow and would like to go with the info in hand

02-22-2010, 05:17 PM	#23
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Flapps Private First Class 23 Rep 185 Posts Drives: E93 Vert, Silverstone II DCT. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bedfordshire, UK iTrader: (0)	Thought I'd resurrect this post, purely for info in case anyone has had the DCT update: I went to book an oil change at my local dealers today after the idrive told me it needed one after counting down the mileage for a few weeks. Last week it said I needed it "Urgently". So having got my oil from Opie, went to the dealers explained what I wanted, they then put the key fob into its reader which told them that I had 4900 miles before the oil change was due. Told them what the idrive was telling me and the disparity was clear. They took the car in, plugged it in and it appeared that when I had the DCT update it must have given the idrive a hissy fit thus giving me two different due dates for oil change. They have reset the settings and the correct reading is now that the oil change is due in 4900 miles, and both fob and idrive are now singing from the same song sheet. Flapps. __________________ I'm a agnostic insomniac dyslexic...I lay awake all night wondering if there really is a dog!!!!
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06-18-2010, 11:02 AM	#26
rosino Private 10 Rep 64 Posts Drives: BMW M3 E92 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: London iTrader: (0)	hi all... sorry to come back on this but... still cannot get my dealer to upgrade the software of the DCT to the latest one.. despite complaining already twice about the lag. Basically sometimes simply doesn't want to accelerate out of 2nd gear.. hence the lag.. then BOOM burst of acceleration.. I asked them to look at it.. they keep saying M3 are like this and there's nothing they can do about it. I then asked to check at least the software that is on the car at the moment.. and they refuse to do this, worst, they wanted to CHARGE ME to check the software version that is on the car at the moment. The service advisor was just able to tell me that it had already been upgraded in Feb 09 from E89X-08-09-515 to E89X-08-09-530... so that should be the one I have on at the moment.. Seems there's a much more recent one, can you confirm ? I will have first major service done very soon.. i think i will go to the dealer that guarantees me the upgrade, can't take it anymore.. All advice welcome.. R
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06-21-2010, 05:05 AM	#27
dar2008 Major 373 Rep 1,209 Posts Drives: E93 M3 and E92 M3 Comp Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Hi Rosino, This is a warranty issue and as such will be fixed by any BMW dealership FOC. Which dealer is telling you these porkies? Please name and shame. I stongly advise you take you car to another dealer who will do the software upgrade under warranty. You may be well advised to contact Anneka at Sytner through the forum. If no joy there then please contact BMW UK and complain as THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE in my opinion!!! I'm retyping my reply to your initial post on this topic below which as you can see states a new release of the software summer 2009 to which my car was upgraded FOC and is now a pleasure to drive... "Just searched out the SIB info and posting it here for you... http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B280708g.htm This shows that BMW were clearly aware of the problem some time ago. It states categorically "To significantly improve the throttle response (or to reduce "throttle lag"), reprogram the vehicle with the current ISTA/P version (target integration E089-09-03-510 or higher, introduced in ISTA/P 2.33.1)." Have you printed this out and shown the dealer? Basically this states that the problem is fixed from software version 2.33.1 onwards. I believe mine was updated to 2.34.1 last July and I haven't had the lag issue since and I drive 99% of the time in D2. Good luck in getting this addressed and as I said in my previous post it's shocking that a BMW dealer can sell the car without this update which addresses a potentially dangerous issue." Good luck! __________________ Last edited by dar2008; 06-21-2010 at 05:12 AM..
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zenderm3 Lieutenant Colonel 98 Rep 1,996 Posts Drives: E36 M3 DY/2010 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brisbane iTrader: (0)	Do any of you guys have the update from May 2010? If so - can you provide me the version number? Cheers, ZenderM3 __________________ ________________ My ///M is in my garage .... and it is a beast! 2010 E92 M3 Space Grey \| Fully Loaded 1996 E36 M3 Dakar Yellow - SOLD 2004 Honda Accord Euro - SOLD
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06-27-2010, 07:32 AM	#32
ss134 Brigadier General 233 Rep 3,899 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Germany/UK iTrader: (1)	My M3 arrives in 2 weeks time and took a leap of faith with DCT despite having never tested it and having always driven a manual - threads like this are making me a bit nervous! Do any of you in hindsight wish you had gone 6MT?? (not trying to jack the thread ...a simple yes or no would be great ) Many thanks Steve __________________ 2014 AW F80 M3 DCT 2011 AW E90 M3 DCT - Sold 2010 JZB E90 M3 DCT - Sold 2009 6MT E90 LCI 335i M -Sport - Sold Last edited by ss134; 06-27-2010 at 02:45 PM..
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Dougie335 Private First Class 32 Rep 188 Posts Drives: Audi S5 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (0)	The DCT is fine. It takes a little more revs when its cold to engage the clutch but after a mile its just like any other auto. Parking and stop/starts are no problem as the clutch is fully disengaged when you are at a stand still i.e you don't have to hold it on the brake. Dougie.
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AM3 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 46 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Coupe DCT White / red Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Midlands UK iTrader: (0)	Manual vs DCT Had the manual E92 Nov 09 - Jan 2010 got the one I have now in March - DCT The gearbox is a peach! I would never go back to a manual Bavarian Belfast put the upgrades on before I got the car thanks to this post I checked with them A
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Hayzi Private First Class 12 Rep 159 Posts Drives: 09 E92, BMW S1000 RR Bike Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Does anyone have the latest SIB for the DCT lag, my car is going in tomorrow and would like to go with the info in hand
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