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      02-22-2014, 01:14 PM   #45
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Big truck small……….

I want to buy a hitch and tire trailer for my m3 since im getting a roll bar and bought this car to drive on the streets and on the track. Found this, its for a regular 3 series but it might work on the m3.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=588084

I used to daily drive this piece of crap for 5 months and got rid of it, i cant understand how people can daily drive these things. They are terrible on fuel, to drive, and to park worst 60 grand i have ever spent.

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Big truck small……….

I want to buy a hitch and tire trailer for my m3 since im getting a roll bar and bought this car to drive on the streets and on the track. Found this, its for a regular 3 series but it might work on the m3.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=588084

I used to daily drive this piece of crap for 5 months and got rid of it, i cant understand how people can daily drive these things. They are terrible on fuel, to drive, and to park worst 60 grand i have ever spent.

You keep talking about trucks like that, they're going throw your ass out of Texas!!

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Big truck small……….

I want to buy a hitch and tire trailer for my m3 since im getting a roll bar and bought this car to drive on the streets and on the track. Found this, its for a regular 3 series but it might work on the m3.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=588084
If you're in the Houston area check out Master Hitch if that 335i hitch doesn't work out (or even before you spring for it), they are very good at creating custom hitches. It's quite possible they have already know the solution.
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I've done the research. As long as you aren't planning on bring a master mechanic's tool set or more than 1 extra set of tires...you can comfortable tow an E46 M3 with a lightweight aluminum trailer with an X5, Cayenne or 1/2 ton truck. The quality of the trailer will have a large play in the quality of your road trips trailering.

Really, you don't NEED to step up to a 3/4 ton truck until you start hauling enclosed trailers or really heavy cars and steel trailers.

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I used to daily drive this piece of crap for 5 months and got rid of it, i cant understand how people can daily drive these things. They are terrible on fuel, to drive, and to park worst 60 grand i have ever spent.
Really? A guy from Texas calling pickup trucks a piece of crap?

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I have an x5d and e46 should that be okay?
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I have an x5d and e46 should that be okay?
I've seen plenty of people do it with a lightweight aluminum trailer...which aren't cheap. My buddy pulled an E46 M3 on a steel trailer and it got squirrely...I would not have done that. He did think that it was a lot better when pulling a wood deck trailer which was a lot lighter than the steel trailer but heavier than an aluminum one.
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I've seen plenty of people do it with a lightweight aluminum trailer...which aren't cheap. My buddy pulled an E46 M3 on a steel trailer and it got squirrely...I would not have done that. He did think that it was a lot better when pulling a wood deck trailer which was a lot lighter than the steel trailer but heavier than an aluminum one.
I have a steel trailer with a wood deck not too heavy.
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Really? A guy from Texas calling pickup trucks a piece of crap?


I repeat my self they are junk and i think people buy them without having a real need are compensating for their small wee wee. They drive like crap, i could not live with one for daily driving. I love my Golf tdi, its so comfortable, fun to drive, and easy to park and dont even get me started on mpg's. If my M3 was a full race car i would understand i would need a truck or suv to haul it but i bought it to drive the hell out of it and get every single cent of my dollars paid to enjoy it and abuse it and its not a 100k+ race car its a hybrid street & track machine. Only reason i bought the golf was because i love hatchbacks and i think vw makes the best one out there.
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I have an x5d and e46 should that be okay?
I've seen a few X5 (not all were diesel) tow an E9x M3. I don't remember if it was steel or alum trailor, but they all said it towed it fine.

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I repeat my self they are junk and i think people buy them without having a real need are compensating for their small wee wee. They drive like crap, i could not live with one for daily driving. I love my Golf tdi, its so comfortable, fun to drive, and easy to park and dont even get me started on mpg's. If my M3 was a full race car i would understand i would need a truck or suv to haul it but i bought it to drive the hell out of it and get every single cent of my dollars paid to enjoy it and abuse it and its not a 100k+ race car its a hybrid street & track machine. Only reason i bought the golf was because i love hatchbacks and i think vw makes the best one out there.
VW is bringing the GTD to the US later this year according to Road and Track.
No reason to get a F#cking Prius with that car available.

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Yeah my car and trailer together are about 5K so should be fine.
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6k max trailer behind an X5. Just install a factory hitch as the aftermarket ones aren't as robust. Squirrely trailers are usually a weight balance issue w/too little tongue weight being the major contributor. It's extremely tough to get an X5 squirrely due to the short lever arm of the ball to rear axles.
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6k max trailer behind an X5. Just install a factory hitch as the aftermarket ones aren't as robust. Squirrely trailers are usually a weight balance issue w/too little tongue weight being the major contributor. It's extremely tough to get an X5 squirrely due to the short lever arm of the ball to rear axles.
Yep and tow limitation is the chasis not the drivetrain, 425ftlbs of torque. Already have the factory hitch installed. Wasn't really concerned about this being an adequate platform.
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Yep and tow limitation is the chasis not the drivetrain, 425ftlbs of torque. Already have the factory hitch installed. Wasn't really concerned about this being an adequate platform.
You're good. I was responding more to Bigjae's post about the squirrely trailer.

X5d is sweet. Tuareg can pull more, but is fugly imnsho.
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You're good. I was responding more to Bigjae's post about the squirrely trailer.

X5d is sweet. Tuareg can pull more, but is fugly imnsho.
okay got it. dont have a lot of room to move towed car forward or back but doubt i will have too little tongue weight. will have to have it tested some point with the car on. thinking in a few years may trade vehicles and trailers for closed and diesel pickup but thats getting ahead of myself.
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i dont have a fancy alum trailer. This is a custom steel, dual electric brakes (which is a must) I towed around 5500# in this picture. my E46 should be lighter than the gt3.

Tow limit is 6k in US nad somehow 7500 in Europe. I have factory hitch. 50i has enough torque. X5 can tow but limited to 600# tongue weight.

Benefit of alum trailer is their resale value is ridiculous. When you sell, it will gt sold and you will get 80-90% back. Thats even after 10 years usage. Check out used featherlite 3110 or Trailex... they are great.

Steel trailer like mine is cheaper entry price. It works with large SUV (but almost at the limit) and any 1/2 ton truck will do it.

If i go enclosed, I would skip 1/2 ton and go to f250/350/ 2500/3500 Diesel. Period.

But sometimes, that is not the most cost effective way for someone who tows 12-15 times a year at max, having 50-60k 3/4 ton truck in the drive way because you dont wanna daily drive it cuz you will find out daily driving a long truck just sucks.

1/2 ton trucks are doable - it will get the job done, but i would still stick with open trailer with 1/2 ton. I dont think it is about how much it can pull. Anything can pull, but when cross wind comes with enclosed, you better have length and traction of the tow vehicle to be in control.
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