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New BMW G80 M3 to Lead 26 New M Division Models Blitz by 2020
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12-08-2017, 06:22 PM | #133 | |
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Why do you like the title ? I call TOTAL BS. If Mercedes can tart out the AMG name on a bunch of sedans, then BMW can throw some M sport badges around just the same way. all this chicken little stuff about the sky falling because BMW is introducing 5 ALL NEW models and updating 10 others is ridiculous. The only new M models in that listing are in bold below. F87 M2 CS F97 X3M F98 X4M F91 M8 Convertible F92 M8 F93 M8 GC F95 X5M F96 X6M G80 M3 G82 M4 G83 M4 Convertible the others are all updates.. the M2 CS hasn't been officially announced so I left it out. And since the M8 really replaces the M6... the M8 models are essentially update models also. IN other words.. the actual number of M offerings that is being increased is limited to M4 CS, M3 CS, M2 CS , X4M, X3M. The addition of 5 new models to the M car lineup isn't that big a deal at all The proliferation of M sport models will not change anything just as M Technic didn't change things in the past. Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 12-08-2017 at 06:34 PM.. |
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There are 2 types of changing gears: manually operate the clutch, or have it done automatically. But there are many types of transmissions: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_(mechanics) |
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12-09-2017, 06:34 AM | #135 | ||||
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How do you explain multi-gear electric motors? EDIT::::: I see your point. On a technicality... but that's what wins court cases, right? I stand by my general statement. A DCT Transmission is an Automatic. |
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12-09-2017, 06:54 AM | #136 |
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12-09-2017, 10:53 AM | #137 |
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I have, and still enjoy, the benefits of manual, automatic and DCT transmissions.
I don't drive my Merc diesel wishing I was more involved with a manual or DCT! I just sense a bit of arrogance that a person driving a DCT is somehow less involved with the driving experience than the purist with the manual. I had a DINAN SC E36 with manual, and it was fantastic and I never wanted that car with an automatic. Drove both a manual and DCT E90 M3 and the DCT was a better choice for me. I suppose If I had opted for the manual and put on the BMW driving shoes, I would have been a better driver and more spiritually connected with the vehicle. To each their own |
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12-09-2017, 11:49 AM | #139 |
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12-09-2017, 02:22 PM | #140 |
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At least a BMW isn't a reincarnation of an econobox chassis like an VW...I meant Audi.
The F8X and this new one isn't making me drool over one for a bunch of reasons. Why can't they put the S58 in the M2, stuff an S63TUTU into the M3/4 and put a ridiculous 7L V10 with 800 HP into the M5/6?
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12-09-2017, 02:30 PM | #141 | |
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12-09-2017, 03:45 PM | #142 |
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12-10-2017, 05:47 PM | #144 |
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///Moaning. (For no apparent reason)
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12-10-2017, 09:49 PM | #145 |
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12-10-2017, 11:37 PM | #146 |
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I lol at all the AMG (fill in the blank)43's cruising around in la thinking they have an AMG (fill in the blank) 63!
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12-12-2017, 04:10 PM | #147 |
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I think that that is an accurate description!
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12-12-2017, 06:01 PM | #148 |
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I hope in the near future that BMW changes course and makes less BMWs that are more exclusive, raises their prices by 100% and just outright knocks the performance competition on it's ass. I bet then, we will see and hear a whole different kind of ///Moaning when ///M is out of reach.
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12-14-2017, 03:55 PM | #149 |
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Also let's hope they make the M models more aggressive looking in a sleek manner. More bulging wheel arches! Like I just saw on a new M2.
Time for M xDrive with rear bias!!! |
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12-14-2017, 08:03 PM | #150 |
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Seems like the best thing is either de-badge completely and let looks and performance define the model. Or, third party branding by someone like IND. or... plexi hoods. Lighter and everyone can see the actual motor, lol.
Brand awareness vs Brand value. Fine line. |
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12-15-2017, 09:55 AM | #151 |
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12-16-2017, 12:51 PM | #152 |
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You mean 330csi rebadged M3
Only automated manual in a proper E36 M3 came in 6 speed SMG. DCT was always a favorable option to go for if you wanted to take easy on your left foot and go fast. It is a huge mistake to replace with dead fish zf 8 speed IMO. It would go fast, but would not provide even a tenth of the connection and ferocity as DCT. |
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12-18-2017, 06:35 AM | #154 | |
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BMW model badges used to have meaning.
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