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06-10-2014, 03:52 PM | #25 |
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Hopefully there will be Z7 "GT3 RS" and "Turbo S" models to really take the fight to the 100k plus territory.
People keep mentioning a new new 2016 super car a la M1and I sincerely hope they are right... but we've seen absolutely zilch in the way of evidence of this. I fear it's just a myth. |
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06-10-2014, 04:32 PM | #27 |
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There is front shot, rear shot and side shot. Google BMW M1 render or concept or BMW M1 V10 render. I did this years ago. Or look on DeviantArt.
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06-10-2014, 05:05 PM | #29 |
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DCT only, N55 derived powerplant + electric motors. Is my guess. Similar powertrain setup as the P1 with "torque fill".
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Great idea and concept but i'm not sure that BMW has much to benefit from collaborating with Toyota on a car like this.
Engine: Inline-6- most likely BMW's own as Toyota stopped building I-6's more than a decade ago. Unless they are deciding to stick a V6 in there for the purposes of compactness/space-efficiency then maybe that's where Toyota comes in, but it isn't a deal breaker for a car like this. Electric motor- BMW has already shown its capabilities through its "i" cars. Chassis/Layout: TBD but BMW manufactures carbon fiber in house, and from the looks of the i8 and its recent portfolio, BMW has no problem creating an agile & capable chassis, be it MR or FR. Transmission: DCT- nothing new here & although Toyota does make its own transmissions (via Aisin), BMW has been using Getrag DCTs and ZF 8ATs quite successfully in its recent lineup so unless Aisin/Toyota has something more to offer here, i don't see where BMW can benefit. Brakes: Again, not rocket science here Active Aero: Here is probably the only thing that might benefit from a collaboration. Although i'm still skeptical about its implementation post-concept but it is possible as the trend towards MPG & efficiency becomes increasingly defined. Perhaps Toyota knows something BMW doesn't and vice versa here From the looks of the potential specs, BMW can easily just drop an inline-6 into a chassis based on the i8 platform and have the wanted results sans active aero. So at this point, i'm really questioning what Toyota has to bring to the table.
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I believe the render was done by Idries Noah. He has a website at Idi3d with more photos including this one. It is easy to find with google.
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06-10-2014, 05:36 PM | #32 | |
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I just want agile light weight cars...soooo tired of pig brutes with gobs of hp thrown at them to compensate for the lbs. I just want like a 2900lb car with 390-400hp!! Come on Bmw you can do it!
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06-10-2014, 07:00 PM | #34 |
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No market for a Z4M, but there's one for a $130k Z hybrid? Current Z4 is enough of a pig already, good luck moving a hybrid hunk of shit "sports car" for twice the price.
Never gonna happen anyway. FWD Z GT S drive 20is will come out before something like this. |
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And how did you come up with that logic? Where did you pull that out of?
Did you read what I responded to? Quote:
http://www.ridelust.com/bmw-m-concep...l-to-audis-r8/ The NSX Concept came out in 2012. Apparently, Wingman was stating that he could see FT-1 and NSX in it, when this render is years before. And the FT-1 has about zero designs cues in common with this car, the only thing it has in common is red paint. I don't even see the NSX in the render. Why? Because the new NSX didn't exist, the front engined one, which ended up as the HSV-010 GT, existed. It looks like a cleaned up M1 Homage with quad exhausts...in fact it looks better than the M1 Homage. Last edited by IS3andME; 06-10-2014 at 08:35 PM.. |
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Yeah and they will put run flats on it
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Seems daft that a bespoke carbon chassis developed by BMW isn't utilised further, maybe the chassis developed cannot handle 600 plus BHP? |
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However I think it makes more sense for BMW to make an M100 for their 100th year anniversary and then water it down to this.
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NO,, if BMW want something to impress and to be elite again, they have to compete against LaFerrari/P1/918
so no less than 800hp
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They wouldn't have the bottle to even attempt something that good. As much as BMW is a luxury brand it's also common, there's nothing exclusive about them and I reckon it'd be too much of a gamble to even try a car in that bracket. We've seen nothing performance from BMW other than M designed versions of standard cars (excepting the i8 sort of) for a very long time |
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