Proof your daily driver BMW can be an absolute riot without the M badge !

1spirit · 10-11-2023, 01:11 PM

Add coilovers & helical diff to your BMW commuter and unlock the beast! M cars need not apply.

They said no drifting on the course, but it couldn't resist, the car really wanted to

I entered the event to test newly installed coilovers and dial in the damping for best car control. With adjustments in the right direction, the car began to rotate more naturally and smoothly when steering into each turn. Car felt faster and more agile than ever. Then it was begging to drift every corner...so I just. Had to. Let it. Go.

If this isn't proof, I don't know what is! A good set of coilovers is key. Before heavy understeer was a problem...either push in the corner or snap on you type of steering. Try to drift, and it didn't like it - you had to work hard and balance on a fine line.

This BMW drives sooo good now, handles like a boss while retaining excellent road manners and daily comforts

N54 torsen grocery getter ftw! Not too many mods needed. Car setup listed in video. Enjoy the joyride!

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celsdogg · 10-11-2023, 01:17 PM

totally made it a drift circuit, lmao, that was awesome, haha

1spirit · 10-11-2023, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by celsdogg

totally made it a drift circuit, lmao, that was awesome, haha

100% hahaha, thanks for watching dogg!

Frank_Zuccarini · 10-11-2023, 04:05 PM

That looked like fun. Thanks for sharing...................

1spirit · 10-11-2023, 04:54 PM

Cheers Frank! Fun indeed, it sort of feels like a drift car now. I just stiffen the rear a few more clicks and voila lol

celsdogg · 10-11-2023, 07:32 PM

What was your time relative to a regular run?

jjFender · 10-12-2023, 08:38 AM

Fun runs at the end of the day right? No way the organizers allowed a chase car during competition runs.

DocL · 10-12-2023, 09:01 AM

Oversteer is more fun than understeer, but 99% of people don't know how to use the throttle, so that's why 99% of cars are set-up to understeer from the factory. Nice time you had there.

1spirit · 10-12-2023, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by celsdogg

What was your time relative to a regular run?

Drifting through the full course added about 14 seconds to a regular run of around 62-63 sec

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Originally Posted by jjFender

Fun runs at the end of the day right? No way the organizers allowed a chase car during competition runs.

Yep this was done at the end of the day

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Originally Posted by DocL

Oversteer is more fun than understeer, but 99% of people don't know how to use the throttle, so that's why 99% of cars are set-up to understeer from the factory. Nice time you had there.

For sure! Such a bummer for those of us who understand throttle control, but yeah safety first. Oversteer ftw haha

M-technik-3 · 10-12-2023, 08:11 PM

Back in the day you just checked the box for a winter package or in super strippers just the LSD box.

You want an LSD BMW forces you to purchase an M now for fun. Lame. So glad aftermarket support is alive and well. Fun video.

tdott · 10-12-2023, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by M-technik-3

Back in the day you just checked the box for a winter package or in super strippers just the LSD box.

You want an LSD BMW forces you to purchase an M now for fun. Lame. So glad aftermarket support is alive and well. Fun video.

That's going pretty far back, lci e36s and e46 non m never had an LSD option.

alex2364 · 10-12-2023, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by M-technik-3

Back in the day you just checked the box for a winter package or in super strippers just the LSD box.

You want an LSD BMW forces you to purchase an M now for fun. Lame. So glad aftermarket support is alive and well. Fun video.

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Originally Posted by tdott

That's going pretty far back, lci e36s and e46 non m never had an LSD option.

It’s not even factually correct because LSD is standard on the G20 M340i and was optional on the G20 330i until MY22.

M-technik-3 · 10-13-2023, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tdott

That's going pretty far back, lci e36s and e46 non m never had an LSD option.

Odd, Owned a 328iS and it had a factory LSD in E34's had them. Thought they were phased out with advent of traction control nannies. E46's and so on. G20 is far too new for me and the fact they added them back is great how much is that option now or it has to be the M340 not a run of the mile 320 or 330?

tdott · 10-13-2023, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by M-technik-3

Odd, Owned a 328iS and it had a factory LSD in E34's had them. Thought they were phased out with advent of traction control nannies. E46's and so on. G20 is far too new for me and the fact they added them back is great how much is that option now or it has to be the M340 not a run of the mile 320 or 330?

yea only some early 328iS did, very few. Later ones didn't anymore. I think it was 97+.

Even F30s started having the factory lsd option (m performance option), althought rare I believe.

But I agree, happy that they are bringing it back although I have no interest in newer BMWs.

1spirit · 10-13-2023, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by M-technik-3

Back in the day you just checked the box for a winter package or in super strippers just the LSD box.

You want an LSD BMW forces you to purchase an M now for fun. Lame. So glad aftermarket support is alive and well. Fun video.

+1 and stoked you and others are enjoying the vid

Out of the factory, this car is probably the most understeering machine BMW ever made. The stock suspension is horrendous for any kind of enthusiastic driving. It needs an LSD dreadfully! But BMW would be afraid that including it will hurt their M-car sales. At the time this was a car much lighter and smaller than the e92 M3. I assume this car had to be “handicapped”

You start an interesting discussion w/tdott & alex. I don’t know much about this particular history so learning from you guys

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But I agree, happy that they are bringing it back although I have no interest in newer BMWs.

Likewise, it’s been a while for me. The e92 M3 and the 1M are the last BMW’s I really liked

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