[ADHD]

Got it ya i dont need touchscreen. But i def want a bigger screen! Think ill get the mmi box from andream and do a screen upgrade after.. what obd2 adapter u go with on bimmercode.

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by ADHD

Got it ya i dont need touchscreen. But i def want a bigger screen! Think ill get the mmi box from andream and do a screen upgrade after.. what obd2 adapter u go with on bimmercode.

I’m using this cheap generic ELM327. eBay has them for $2, but here is a little more expensive on Amazon.

https://www.googleadservices.com/pag...ECAMQDA&adurl=

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ADHD

Got it ya i dont need touchscreen. But i def want a bigger screen! Think ill get the mmi box from andream and do a screen upgrade after.. what obd2 adapter u go with on bimmercode.

For the f series I use the bm3 wifi adapter, here's my review: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2025504

It's more expensive than a generic elm327 adapter. But it's significantly faster, has encryption, sleep mode so your battery doesn't drain enabling you to leave it in permanently, and is fully flexray compatible so you'll be able to use it for tuning later on if you so choose.

[ADHD]

So looking on bimmertech.com i think i do have CIC im going to take it apart this afternoon and confirm. That said it looks like i might have to swap the HU and the CID to go with the bigger screen.. I got the esys software from another thread i figure ill give it a try picked up an enet cable off ebay for 10$ im pretty computer savy so well see how that goes or ill just buy the bimmercode.. do i need to purchase the 49$ full version off bimmercode app?

[Homersbud]

Originally Posted by ADHD

So looking on bimmertech.com i think i do have CIC im going to take it apart this afternoon and confirm. That said it looks like i might have to swap the HU and the CID to go with the bigger screen.. I got the esys software from another thread i figure ill give it a try picked up an enet cable off ebay for 10$ im pretty computer savy so well see how that goes or ill just buy the bimmercode.. do i need to purchase the 49$ full version off bimmercode app?

if you got esys, you don’t need bimmercode. save your money and read up on swapping out HU as there is a lot involved but esys is all you’ll need.

[ADHD]

Originally Posted by Homersbud

if you got esys, you don’t need bimmercode. save your money and read up on swapping out HU as there is a lot involved but esys is all you’ll need.

Just looking at the other options if i cant wrap my head around the esys.. ok i need to confirm this afternoon after work ill pull it apart then dive into research on replacing the HU if necessary.. im guessing more coding involved?

[Homersbud]

Originally Posted by ADHD

Just looking at the other options if i cant wrap my head around the esys.. ok i need to confirm this afternoon after work ill pull it apart then dive into research on replacing the HU if necessary.. im guessing more coding involved?

cant use bimmercode to replace HU as you need code in vin and a bunch others programming which BC simply can’t do.

i know with nbt & newer hu, you can replace screen without needing replace the hu.

[ADHD]

Originally Posted by Homersbud

cant use bimmercode to replace HU as you need code in vin and a bunch others programming which BC simply can’t do.

i know with nbt & newer hu, you can replace screen without needing replace the hu.

Got it.. Thank you.. and Yes with newer 2014 or so u don’t have to swap the HU but unfortunately im a 08/12 production date so looks like im SOL.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ADHD

So looking on bimmertech.com i think i do have CIC im going to take it apart this afternoon and confirm. That said it looks like i might have to swap the HU and the CID to go with the bigger screen.. I got the esys software from another thread i figure ill give it a try picked up an enet cable off ebay for 10$ im pretty computer savy so well see how that goes or ill just buy the bimmercode.. do i need to purchase the 49$ full version off bimmercode app?

Personally I prefer protool. It can code anything esys can.

[ADHD]

Originally Posted by F87source

Personally I prefer protool. It can code anything esys can.

More user freindly im guessing?

[fe7565]

Yes, I believe that with the EntryNav CIC you are limited to 6.5" resolution only (800/480?). A used NBT is only $100 on EBay, but it's a bit involved to properly replace and code it. You should be motivated and enjoy doing it. And you will need Esys to setup, albeit you will not need a Launcher also if you use Bimmercode for coding.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ADHD

More user freindly im guessing?

Probably not, but more capable. Protool can code things that bimmercode can't. I have a review that I did for it explaining all of that. You can click the link in my signature and the link for my protool review is there.

[ADHD]

Thanks Ill check that out.. Going to attempt to download the esys from Shawnsheridan in a bit.. In the Meantime I pulled the dash apart and and need to confirm wether i have CIC or NBT. still not sure.. its a purple plug 4pin inner 2 pin outer 6pin plug. Thanks fe7565 for the Tips and help getting to this point..

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by ADHD

Thanks Ill check that out.. Going to attempt to download the esys from Shawnsheridan in a bit.. In the Meantime I pulled the dash apart and have confirmed I have CIC. Thanks fe7565 for the Tips and help getting to this point..
So now that i have that confirmed REAL OEM tells me the 8.8" Screen is Part # 65509292248 for my vehicle.. Im going to order the MMI for CIC And look on ebay for a 8.8" screen. After all the research Im still not sure if i need to swap the HU or not.. so confusing... Can i just go the route mentioned above with minimal coding to achieve carplay on a bigger screen?

May want to check and confirm if your CIC HU is able to do 8.8"

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=486

https://integratedautomotive.co.uk/w...0the%20display.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ADHD

Thanks Ill check that out.. Going to attempt to download the esys from Shawnsheridan in a bit.. In the Meantime I pulled the dash apart and and need to confirm wether i have CIC or NBT. still not sure.. its a purple plug im looking for diagrams.. Thanks fe7565 for the Tips and help getting to this point..
So now that i have that confirmed REAL OEM tells me the 8.8" Screen is Part # 65509292248 for my vehicle.. Im going to order the MMI for CIC And look on ebay for a 8.8" screen. After all the research Im still not sure if i need to swap the HU or not.. so confusing... Can i just go the route mentioned above with minimal coding to achieve carplay on a bigger screen?

esys should work fine, the only time I needed protool or a newer esys launcher was when I couldn't access my GHAS and EPS module for f87cs settings because my istep was too new and not mapped by the older launchers.

[ADHD]

Originally Posted by fe7565

May want to check and confirm if your CIC HU is able to do 8.8"

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=486

https://integratedautomotive.co.uk/w...0the%20display.

well that link just confirmed I might have a hybrid..ANd Shawn sheridan Confirmed it..
But this system is not a purely CIC system, it is known as HU_ENTRY and is also available in F3x vehicles without navigation. These systems have 6 pin LVDS displays.
Some things i found as well ON HU ENTRY..
..Hu entry can't be coded for the bigger screen if it came with 6.5
..You would have to upgrade to nbt or newer

My pin is a purple 4pin plug with 2 pin outside of it. NBT plug

I may just have to get the ANDREAM Head unit Screen and skip the MMI box..Anyone here used the ANDREAM Screen?

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by ADHD

well that link just confirmed I might have a hybrid..
But this system is not a purely CIC system, it is known as HU_ENTRY and is also available in F3x vehicles without navigation. These systems have 6 pin LVDS displays.

My pin is a purple 4pin plug with 2 pin outside of it??? Will i still order the CIC MMI box?

Let the seller (Andream or Road Top) know what you have and they should know. Also ask them if the MMI firmware is able to use full-Bluetooth audio vs the AUX-IN.
NBT and EVO MMI's now have that firmware, and I believe Road Top has CUST version "ltcichl_n客户版CHLR174" for CIC MMIs that does full-Bluetooth audio, but do not know if Andream has one for CICs.

[ADHD]

Originally Posted by fe7565

Let the seller (Andream or Road Top) know what you have and they should know. Also ask them if the MMI firmware is able to use full-Bluetooth audio vs the AUX-IN.
NBT and EVO MMI's now have that firmware, and I believe Road Top has CUST version "ltcichl_n客户版CHLR174" for CIC MMIs that does full-Bluetooth audio, but do not know if Andream has one for CICs.

i put an email into ANdream prob get a response tommorrow. Seems my cheapest option might just be to get the andream 10' screen.. found a thread on em seem like they do the job...

[fe7565]

Originally Posted by ADHD

i put an email into ANdream prob get a response tommorrow. Seems my cheapest option might just be to get the andream 10' screen.. found a thread on em seem like they do the job...

That would be the cheapest and easiest. Plug and play.

But be careful with the android screens. Their huge drawback is that they have a mirror like glare. Even the newer anti-glare coated ones. The Chinese are just not willing to invest some decent money into good screens.

I bought one a while back and after a week I could not stand it anymore. Looking daily at my OEM screen now I’m very glad I did stay with OEM.

There is a thread “Android 11 / 12 / 13” and you can ask there (Red Erik et al) if anything changed.

[ADHD]

Originally Posted by fe7565

That would be the cheapest and easiest. Plug and play.

But be careful with the android screens. Their huge drawback is that they have a mirror like glare. Even the newer anti-glare coated ones. The Chinese are just not willing to invest some decent money into good screens.

I bought one a while back and after a week I could not stand it anymore. Looking daily at my OEM screen now I’m very glad I did stay with OEM.

There is a thread “Android 11 / 12 / 13” and you can ask there (Red Erik et al) if anything changed.

Iv seen dome comments in the glare thing. Im usually driving in dark either way so it might not even bother me it could be worth a shot.
And After further research it looks like the way to go is to full evo on the HU swap from HUENTRY if i was to go oem

[Dnavarroc]

Hi all,
Promissed I burned my eyes reading and I can’t decide between the box, the embedded or the stand screen options for my F11 with professional navigation, that’s the 8.8” screen.
I believe the embedded screen is the easiest and safest, since I saw multiple comments complaining on glares on the big stand screen.
I think the embedded would upgrade my set with CarPlay and touch screen, which won’t come with the box only option.
My concern is if the embedded screen quality would be similar than original 8.8” in terms of resolution and bright / glares.
Any thoughts to help me decide???
Thanks!!!

[Krenforum]

Hello,

I can give you my advice. I have F31 with 6.5 screen. I read all the forum topics regarding the stand alone screen and MMI unit.

I went with oem upgrade 8.8 screen and MMI. And I am really happy about it, because it is very fast. When I start car, carplay loads really fast.
My friend bought android screen, it is true that you get touchscreen, but when the screen loads my stomach hurts, ugly logos. It is not fast, it is made as a tablet with android where you can install apps and carplay is only as addition. And because of that it is slower.
It is not that well customized, but hey you get touchscreen 😀