[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by AndreyATC

Efthreeoh,
It is unfortunate you have to pay so much tax on the car, not many states charge property tax on a vehicle
But it's not related to Tesla, it's any brand
Some states dont even charge sale tax when you purchase electric vehicle, plus you get 7500 rebate next year
Many BMW owners are enjoying driving experience and tech in their cars
Some people buy them for status as well
Tesla has similar customers, but its product is a bit different
There is no reason to argue specific points here. As for some people it worth owning one over the other.
I bought it because i need to transport 3 adults and 3 kids
I have a garage and solar panels on my roof
BMW does not yet offer a car (X7 might) that could comfortably accommodate large families. You have to buy a gasler that drives like a boat and doesnt fit in some garages
And you either need second commute car to save on gas, or use gasler on your commute.
Every situation is different

I like the idea of home charging (was never arguing that point – I lose power sometimes at my place however…) and I like the idea of getting off the gasoline "grid" mainly because I just hate the price fluctuation of gasoline. I’ve seen the Tesla and sat in it. I think it’s a great idea and a cool car, but the Tesla entry price is quite high, which makes the personal property tax an issue for me (a lower price car carries a lower tax) and increases the total owner-ship cost. Saving on gasoline cost is not the only metric to consider. There are other cars that the total cost of ownership is lower that fit the bill for me.

Now, if Tesla can produce the 3-series-sized, $40K sport sedan, it says is in the pipeline, then we’ll have a much better total ownership cost to evaluate. Battery longevity is the only other issue with an EV. No manufacturer will go beyond 80K miles (I think Tesla is 120K) warranty. If you take cars to 200K-plus miles like I do, battery replacement has to factor into the total cost. The Tesla and EVs in general are just not yet there being competitive to an ICE for me at least.

Enjoy yours. Cheers.

[AndreyATC]

Drive train and battery warranty is 8 year with unlimited miles
There will be Model-3 in 2-3 years that carries 35k price tag
It will be sized around 3-5 series BMW
However, it may only have 200mil range
It might be one of the reasons tesla and BMW joined this venture

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by AndreyATC

Drive train and battery warranty is 8 year with unlimited miles
There will my model 3 in 2-3 years that carries 35k price tag
It will be sized around 3-5 series BMW
It might be one of the reasons tesla and BMW joined this venture

That's only for the 85KW battery if memory serves correctly.

[AndreyATC]

Yes,
85 makes more sense though, even though it's more $$
It is the only one capable of doing 300 miles on a single charge and can be the only car in a household
I would never consider 60kw
I hope we are going to see more i-series or other electric cars from BMW or perhaps, other makes as well.
i'm personally waiting for X5 plugin, i really like its design and concept
90%+ it'll drive on electric power alone, unless i go on a trip
It's all good

[bradleyland]

The word yesterday was that Elon talked the deal up for PR purposes, but a BMW spokesperson went on record to say there was never a deal.

Well, that's embarrassing.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

The word yesterday was that Elon talked the deal up for PR purposes, but a BMW spokesperson went on record to say there was never a deal.

Imagine that, Musk saying whatever he can to boost stock prices.

[fecurtis]

Source:
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/12/02/b...a-tie-up-talk/

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

The word yesterday was that Elon talked the deal up for PR purposes, but a BMW spokesperson went on record to say there was never a deal.

Well, that's embarrassing.

Doh!