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      10-04-2014, 05:38 PM   #111
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No. You have zero interest in the i8 because it is not what you wanted it to be.
In this you fail to overlook the turning point the i8 represents not only for the segment but the entire industry.

The i8 is a response to an industry and a segment that could find itself extinct due to increased legislation and environmental policies.

The i8 answers the "What if?" With " Less can be more" the i8 is the litmus test but the i8 has also been tested with a motor cycle engine as well as a diesel.
In BMW terms the i8 is already an old car and was developed from what was purely possible at that moment. That moment has passed and the possibilities are greater than ever.

And the next generation of BMWs will provide a significant lead against competitors in the application of Carbon Fibre in a volume vehicle thanks to wise investment choices and also have stolen the lead from their competitors.

Then there is the greatest thing about the i8 - the fact that similar sports cars using a similar philosophy are around ten times more expensive and that BMW brought in such a concept with its technology at a highly significant price.

The i9 also follows the "Less is more" philosophy and not what they are reporting.
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My interest is so low it's in the negative. Part of where BMW lost me with the i8 is the implied supercar status.
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I8 = A way to throw away money in a boring car with a limited lifespan.

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      10-05-2014, 08:44 AM   #114
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I thinks it's the slowest car by far in its price range and BMW has a long way to go.

If that car was $40,000 - $50,000 they'd be on to something.
Do you seriously think the i8 belongs in the same price bracket as a well-optioned 335i?!?!?!?
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...the fact that similar sports cars using a similar philosophy are around ten times more expensive and that BMW brought in such a concept with its technology at a highly significant price.
THIS is what I think was the primary purpose of the i8 that most people aren't recongnizing.
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      10-07-2014, 08:49 AM   #116
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my view:

1. "global warming" does not exist. HOWEVER, climate change does, and the human population is having an effect (big or small) on it. All the developed countries have already reduced the amount of emissions throughout all of its industries which is highly commendable (hell, evidence of the ozone layer replenishing already exist). we are definitely on the right track (efficient combustion engines with wide adoption of direct injection, turbocharging, light-weight materials) as well as utilizing solar and wind energy for much larger industries. both EU and US has pushed manufacturers to create much more efficient vehicles, and although those rules were a PITA, the auto industry responded with some amazing technology that really benefits everyone. the biggest challenge is to get the rest of the developing countries on track to be more environmentally friendly (China and India). all they really need is money and time.

2. personally, i'm all for hybrid technology, but not in terms of the environment. without going into too much detail, i believe hydrogen fuel + fuel cell tech is the future. there is no charging of batteries whatsoever, "fill-ups" take just as short of a time as regular petroleum, and it does NOT change the way we live today. there are no emissions, they produce an immense amount of energy (kilowatts!), and all that comes out of it is water. obviously, the technology for storing hydrogen is the biggest issue, but if we can work out the infrastructure of hydrogen filling stations, we will be golden.

3. hybrid technology for saving gas? no. batteries are a stop-gap for true free-emission transportation. batteries need to be charged (which takes forever), they go bad (need to be replaced every 5+ years), and cause immense environmental damage to create them (mining, acid rain, blah blah). not convinced.

4. hybrid technology for motorsport? hell yes. regenerative energy that provide an instantaneous 100+ horsepower in cars is where it's at. hybrid tech provides all the benefits of force induction without the drawbacks. the only big one would be weight, but extensive use of light-weight materials help offset that problem in the first place.

going back to the i8, I'm personally interested not in the car itself, but the technology it provides. Look at the Mclaren P1, Porsche 918, and the Ferrari theFerrari. all are performing the same engineering exercise, but BMW is making that technology a bit more accessible. it just shows the future of what BMW is capable of doing, which is a good thing IMO.

think about it: with all the tech that the i8 provides, BMW can go back to using NA engines while still providing that forced induction torque without the need for turbos, keeping the cars super-light for better track performance, all the while being emissions friendly and fuel efficient.

cars are getting better and better by the day. the i8 itself? meh. don't care for the car. but the technology is provides? bring it on. i'm all for it.
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Jalopnik just gave the BMW i8 a score of 92 which is one of the highest scores they've ever given.

I'm quite disappointed that the BMW M community has been so apathetic to the i8. It's the future. You should embrace it.

http://jalopnik.com/2015-bmw-i8-the-...iew-1641783103
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Jalopnik just gave the BMW i8 a score of 92 which is one of the highest scores they've ever given.

I'm quite disappointed that the BMW M community has been so apathetic to the i8. It's the future. You should embrace it.

http://jalopnik.com/2015-bmw-i8-the-...iew-1641783103
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I have zero interest in buying it, but I am very interested in all the tech it will bring to other series down the line.
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No the future is in the air not on the ground
Most people can't control an object with 1 axis of movement. I can't imagine sharing the airways with them with 3 axis'.
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Most people can't control an object with 1 axis of movement. I can't imagine sharing the airways with them with 3 axis'.
absolutely hence we have our good friend Autopilot
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absolutely hence we have our good friend Autopilot


He does the job pretty well.
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