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      11-14-2014, 12:31 PM   #1
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McLaren Honda F1 car: First Look





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It is an adapted version of this year's car that has been adjusted to fit the Honda components. This shot was taken by McLaren during a practice session at Silverstone
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Cool, I've always imagined it white when they change to Honda engines.
Of course this pic has nothing to do with next years livery anyway
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Article from Skysports posted today.

Begging to be asked: The unanswered questions for Honda's return to F1 in 2015

Why McLaren-Honda really could be winners in 2015 and why the clue could be in the name for a new balance of power in F1


How competitive will the Honda engine be?
Given the struggles both Ferrari and Renault have endured at the outset of the sport’s new turbo era, Honda are surprisingly bullish about their prospects next season. And that’s putting it mildly. Despite their self-imposed exile from F1 since 2008, Honda are adamant they’ll return as winners in 2015.

“I trust - I am a firm believer - that we will win races next year,” predicted Honda’s Head of Motorsport Yasuhisa Arai in a recent interview. “I have confidence that we will match Mercedes."

The word ‘transitional’ evidently has no place in the Honda dictionary.


While Arari’s confidence is likely to be met with scepticism elsewhere – just imagine the reaction at Renault and Ferrari for starters - it has to be assumed his confidence is based on solid facts rather than fanciful thinking. Honda have had a full season in which to evaluate the competition and, thanks to Mercedes’ supply of engines to McLaren, they have been ideally situated to understand the strengths – and any weaknesses – of the current field-leading package and the advantages of a ‘works team’ partnership.

Their optimism is worth listening to.

Can McLaren live up to their end of the bargain?
Or, to put it in slightly cruder terms, if McLaren can only struggle to fifth in the Constructors’ Championship when already armed with the best engine in the field, why should a competitive engine from Honda make any difference in 2015?

Such scepticism is inevitable and understandable. But there are two significant mitigations to these doubts – understandable and inevitable - to consider. The first is that while the MP4-29 has been aerodynamically weak, those flaws – effectively amounting to a misguided hunch about the importance of rear-end grip this year - are relatively easy to remedy.

The second is that, in F1’s complicated new age of kinetic energy recovery systems, there is far more to an engine partnership than the provision of horsepower. "It’s access to the source code that allows you to both harness and harvest the energy recovery systems and that’s crucial for getting a well-balanced car," Ron Dennis explained to Sky F1 at Suzuka. The McLaren boss isn’t in the habit of delivering soundbites but his next line was the ultimate advertising slogan for his team’s reunion with Honda: “No grand prix team is going to win a World Championship in the future unless it is the dominant recipient of an engine manufacturer’s efforts."

Ron Dennis sees no impediment why Fernando Alonso can’t re-join McLaren

In layman’s term, it’s only by precisely understanding how an engine works that its potential can be fully realised and harnessed. The clue is in the names: for Mercedes-Mercedes, car and engine has dovetailed seamlessly in 2014; for McLaren-Mercedes, it’s been a compromise from start to finish.

Will the team be called McLaren-Honda or Honda-McLaren?
It was curious to note that, when pressed to reveal the timeline of Honda’s return to F1, Arai referred to the 2015 car as being composed of “the Honda engine and the McLaren chassis - the Honda McLaren.” No other team name puts the horse before the cart when it comes to naming rights – as above, McLaren are currently listed as ‘McLaren Mercedes’ and the new arrangment has been filed under a team name of 'McLaren Honda' on the 2015 entry list published by the FIA.

Nevertheless, despite that conclusive answer from F1's governing body, the primacy given to ‘Honda’ by Arai may have been a tell-tale clue to an even deeper business arrangement between the two parties than previously realised. We’ll see.

How much influence will Honda hold at McLaren?
With or without title sponsorship supplementing engine supply, Honda are sure to hold considerable sway at McLaren, not least because Dennis’ ‘dominant recipient’ line can be easily interpreted as open acknowledgement that an F1 team now needs an engine supplier far more than an engine supplier needs an F1 team.

For McLaren, in the words of their team boss Eric Boullier, the partnership is "a game changer". For F1, the question is whether Honda's return also means the game itself is changing too. The first out-of-house engine providers of 'a works team' in the new era, Honda's return may also break the mould that has traditionally seen the team as the dominant partner in a relationship between recipient and supplier. At Woking in 2015, the power may be with the power providers



http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/22...-to-f1-in-2015
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Honda - McLaren - Alonso. It's exciting for sure, let's hope it doesn't disappoint. The chef aka management can ruin the best of ingredients and burn the cake. I have high hopes though.
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These classics were on display for the launch and shakedown today. Old McLaren-Honda partnership
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That car is such a beast. So small, simple and so very powerful and I assume pretty scary to drive. For an F1 car with aero it's one of the nicer looking designs. Respect.
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If it's a McLaren-Honda, it should be in the classic Marlboro red and white.
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If it's a McLaren-Honda, it should be in the classic Marlboro red and white.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they match Mercedes - in taking several years to become dominant.
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BMW is left behind in terms of racing turbo-charging technology. Unlike Porsche and Audi in WEC, or Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren and now Honda in F1, BMW has no FI test bed.
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BMW is left behind in terms of racing turbo-charging technology. Unlike Porsche and Audi in WEC, or Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren and now Honda in F1, BMW has no FI test bed.
If and when the regulations call for inline four cylinder turbo engines, I fully expect to see BMW back on the grid.
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The car with no. 5 looks like a toy for kids. It's not only street cars that has grown...
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The first proper outing for McLaren-Honda's interim Formula One car is set to be the star attraction of the final two-day in-season test of 2014 in Abu Dhabi this week.

McLaren have already run Honda's new F1 power unit on track as part of a filming day at Silverstone, but the Yas Marina session will provide the first serious glimpse of the partnership's potential ahead of the 2015 season. The team's official reserve driver Stoffel Vandoorne, who finished his rookie GP2 campaign as championship runner-up, will be charged with driving duties on both days.

"On Tuesday and Wednesday, here in Abu Dhabi, we'll be testing our hybrid McLaren-Honda MP4-29H/1X1 for the first time," McLaren team principal Eric Boullier said.

(Read the rest here: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin.../11/16694.html )
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Uh oh, the McLaren fired up for its first lap of the Abu Dhabi testing this morning then had to return very slowly to the pit lane with the engine off. Vandoorne's McLaren caused a red flag....

The MP4-29H/1X1 is being plagued with electrical issues already
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The big SAP logo all over the car looks horribly out of place. I hope they change that.
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The big SAP logo all over the car looks horribly out of place. I hope they change that.
Hopefully when they add more sponsors to the livery it won't look so "in your face"
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Sad it broke down so quickly.
But, I have high hopes for this partnership. Honda was and is way more into the overall development of the car than just "supplying an engine" which is why they were so successful the first time out. They didn't shell out all this cash and time to sit by and get passed over by the rest of the pack.
I wish B M would come back to F1 but with how crazy the kit is going, I can't say I blame them for still holding out. Still, it would be nice to see them in WEC or something besides TUDOR or PWC.
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