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Porsche been doing it since decades and it's what toyota/subaru should have done with their gt86/brz engine, it's for testing oil starvation simulating an aggressive driving
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This will be a big improvement over the slant 6 that was in my parents’ Plymouth Volare was I started driving. The Japanese had some nice twin turbo V6 gas engines in the 90s. BMW started turbocharging I6 gas engines in 2007. The Dodge motor in its higher tune state looks like it will equal BMW’s highest output I6 turbo. Twin turbos, direct injection and multi valve heads are not simple but they are a lot of fun!
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02-24-2024, 04:18 PM | #5 |
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Let's see DOHC, DI, bore 84.0mm, 90.0mm stroke, closed deck, water-to-air intercooler, plasma transfer wire arc walls etc ... yep, Stellantis stole I6 from BMW. Pretty smart move as we all know B58/S58 is a masterpiece. And this can be had in a base truck starting at $43K MSRP - very impressive.
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02-25-2024, 09:50 AM | #6 | |
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Are Ford's V8's THAT different from GM's V8's? |
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02-25-2024, 02:17 PM | #8 |
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Yeah, Ford's small block pushrod, in production for 40 years (and still sold as a crate engine), was a lot different than GM small block pushrod of the same era(s).
Both make OHC V8s also. Do you think GM's LT6 cribbed from FoMoCo? |
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02-25-2024, 02:48 PM | #9 | |
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"Stole" was obviously a joke, but it's pretty hard to find more similar engines, even compassion ratios are within the specs Hurcane=9.5:1, S58=9.3:1, turbo to three cylinders configuration. They even got the same idea from BMW to use low and high output versions. There the high output got higher boots and more forged internals. Check the intercooler configuration looks very similar to S58.
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So, it's not a coincidence the B58 and the Hurricane share near identical bore/stroke/compression ratio specs. It's why the industry is awash in 2.0L turbocharged four-cylinder engines; everybody's got one.
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02-25-2024, 03:25 PM | #12 |
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I realize that there is nothing new under the sun, and all internal combustion engines share the same principles under stricter emissions. But those two are the most similar engines I have seen yet.
S58=2,993 cc Hurricane=2,993 cc |
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02-25-2024, 07:21 PM | #13 |
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Out of morbid self loathing, I built a 2025 ram with the HO I6 which meant it had to be a limited not a Laramie. It worked out to $92k. That's insane and they can f right off with that. I paid under 50k for my then new f150 platinum that was fully loaded in 2015. I get inflation, but that's nearly doubled. I also got 0% for 72 months and you know they're not gonna do that either.
I'm sure it's a nice truck, but the only thing it has over that old truck is power level stock (that coyote could make 650 with a blower thrown on and run like stock), a wireless charging pad, and a needlessly larger screen. For that kind of money I could.have my X5 AND a Ram SRT10 QC. |
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Somebody gotta pay up for EV's, sad truth it's pickup drivers for Ford, GM and Stellantis. |
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02-26-2024, 01:36 PM | #17 | |
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In the end, it makes more sense (for me) to daily a sporty SUV I like, and either buy a beater truck, rent a truck, or use a utility trailer. |
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02-27-2024, 07:38 AM | #19 |
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I don't disagree. My point is a luxury truck should not cost as much as a German luxury SUVs. At the end of the day, it's still a work truck underneath. That's what people like about them. Nice cabin, space for the family, and tough as nails, for less money than a luxury SUV. When it's cheaper to buy the luxury SUV and a small folding trailer, the value prop breaks down.
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