[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by USAM3

LOL epitome of a fanboi response.

I think some of us are a bit confused by the problem you seem to be having. I live in a hot and humid climate and have my a/c on every time I'm in the car and have not had problems. Have you taken it in to a dealer to see if there is something wrong with it?

[myzmak]

Originally Posted by USAM3

Nope, not an overstatement. It's a serious enough problem that I am thinking of going with another brand for sake of my family's comfort. All of my previous newer gen BMWs exhibited the same HVAC problem. The way I see it, BMW has made the HVAC system fancier with very little improvement in performance. I actually think they've taken steps backwards.

Glad you dont think your own assessment of a car the other posters on this forum also own is not an overstatement. By that measure, when your wife says you make the 'best ribs in the world' she must mean that in a literal sense....

I really don't know what more i can say. As I've said, I have the same car, i also have a family (not the same family, obviously) and we've done lots of trips in it and have never had anyone ever complain about it being too hot or cold. like....ever. (and my wife and i tend to be pretty opposite in our likes/dislikes of hot and cold....)

It starts to sound really basic, but why not just set it at near room temperature and leave it? eg: rather than swinging it up and down like a whore's pants (as my mother would say....no, really, she actually says stuff like that) just find a setting near room temp and leave it there.

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

I mean - if it's life and death and all...

well, it must be. family is involved......

[F83]

Originally Posted by USAM3

Nope, not an overstatement. It's a serious enough problem that I am thinking of going with another brand for sake of my family's comfort. All of my previous newer gen BMWs exhibited the same HVAC problem. The way I see it, BMW has made the HVAC system fancier with very little improvement in performance. I actually think they've taken steps backwards.

I didn't notice this issue.

But now I'm really pissed about it.

What a POS!

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by F83

I didn't notice this issue.

But now I'm really pissed about it.

What a POS!

I can't read what Blue or Red means either man, I'm annoyed too.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by myzmak

Glad you dont think your own assessment of a car the other posters on this forum also own is not an overstatement. By that measure, when your wife says you make the 'best ribs in the world' she must mean that in a literal sense....

I really don't know what more i can say. As I've said, I have the same car, i also have a family (not the same family, obviously) and we've done lots of trips in it and have never had anyone ever complain about it being too hot or cold. like....ever. (and my wife and i tend to be pretty opposite in our likes/dislikes of hot and cold....)

It starts to sound really basic, but why not just set it at near room temperature and leave it? eg: rather than swinging it up and down like a whore's pants (as my mother would say....no, really, she actually says stuff like that) just find a setting near room temp and leave it there.

well, it must be. family is involved......

I guess I love my family less....

Besides, I often make them enjoy the car with the top down (the horror!!!)

[F83]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

I guess I love my family less....

Besides, I often make them enjoy the car with the top down (the horror!!!)

Yeah but if you want to use the neck warmers that's one (or two) more buttons! Plus the one you gotta push to get the top down in the first place.

Buttonpocalypse

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by F83

Yeah but if you want to use the neck warmers that's one (or two) more buttons! Plus the one you gotta push to get the top down in the first place.

Buttonpocalypse

I vote for making schools teach the easiest class to kids and students in the world.

Common Sense 101

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by F83

Yeah but if you want to use the neck warmers that's one (or two) more buttons! Plus the one you gotta push to get the top down in the first place.

Buttonpocalypse

DAMN!!!

Now I have to add difficulty factor of 2 more buttons!!!!

I am trading this car first thing Monday!!!!

[myzmak]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

DAMN!!!

Now I have to add difficulty factor of 2 more buttons!!!!

I am trading this car first thing Monday!!!!

you know the drill, lemon, recall, class action, demand a free i8, CMON BMW!!! etc.

[F83]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

DAMN!!!

Now I have to add difficulty factor of 2 more buttons!!!!

I am trading this car first thing Monday!!!!

Get it towed.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by F83

Get it towed.

Roadside assistance: 'yes, how can we assist you?'

Me: 'I need this POS BMW towed because the A/C is terrible and I cannot keep it regulated. My family life is at stake!'

Roadside assistance: 'Click'

Me: Hello?? Hello??

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Roadside assistance: 'yes, how can we assist you?'

Me: 'I need this POS BMW towed because the A/C is terrible and I cannot keep it regulated. My family life is at stake!'

Roadside assistance: 'Click'

Me: Hello?? Hello??

They will probably put you on hold first for 30 minutes while they try to figure out a solution for you.

[myzmak]

Originally Posted by Arcades

They will probably put you on hold first for 30 minutes while they try to figure out a solution for you.

That leads to the 'BMW has worst roadside assistance' thread....

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

Roadside assistance: 'yes, how can we assist you?'

Me: 'I need this POS BMW towed because the A/C is terrible and I cannot keep it regulated. My family life is at stake!'

Roadside assistance: 'Click'

Me: Hello?? Hello??

Then about 30 minutes after, they tell you.

"Sir, the Red Side dial means hot, Blue Side means cold. So everyone can adjust it to what they want!"

[vonmayr]

Well, this is certainly entertaining but I think . Just a little

I must say that I also am mystified why you cannot obtain a comfortable condition throughout the cabin with the methods to set temperature that are provided.

To the OP - I assume from your comments that your children cannot reach the climate dial - perhaps they are in car seats. The temperature control point for Auto mode seems to be highly biased to the front half of the cabin - so the rear cabin needs to adjust up or down to taste using the red/blue wheel. You may have to reach back and adjust it once for them. Of course, the side on the sun can also get warmer than the other side so using the shades help.

Also, in Auto, the maximum fan speed is set by the fan speed button - perhaps you have set the maximum fan speed too low - I just set it to max fan speed and that distributes air and allows the fan to work at it's desired speed rather than capping it at a set max speed less than its actual max speed.

Should it be easier? Dunno. Seems to work for most of us though.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

I live in South Florida and find the a/c works fine. I drove Audi and Lexus since 1994 before I got this M4 in July. When I first got the car I thought the a/c sucked until I moved a thumbwheel from red to blue. I don't understand the point of / need for that thumbwheel but once I moved it to blue I just left it there and everything is fine.

The thumbwheel simply allows you to fine tune the temperature of the air coming out of the dash vents. The HVAC will continue to maintain the set temperature on the display by readjusting the temperature of the air coming out of th other vents (footwells and dash). I find this to be a very useful feature and have also had it in my E46 and E92 M3s.


For uniform airflow temperature, simply set the 2 thumbwheels (front dash and rear passenger compartment) to their middle setting.

[CanAutM3]

OP, have you tried setting the temperature thumbwheel in the rear passenger compartment to the middle setting and turning the airflow thumbwheel to the max setting?

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

The thumbwheel simply allows you to fine tune the temperature of the air coming out of the dash vents. The HVAC will continue to maintain the set temperature on the display by readjusting the temperature of the air coming out of th other vents (footwells and dash). I find this to be a very useful feature and have also had it in my E46 and E92 M3s.


For uniform airflow temperature, simply set the 2 thumbwheels (front dash and rear passenger compartment) to their middle setting.

I figured that much out, but it seems redundant with maintaining the temperature using a thermostat. I've never had a car with a thermostat and a dial or lever to manually adjust air temps that work at the same time. Older cars without climate control had a dial or lever to adjust air temp like that but once cars started including climate control to allow people to adjust to a temperature, it became an either / or in others cars I've had. You either set the temp and don't need to touch anything else or you don't use the climate control temperature setting and use other settings to manually adjust however you want. In fact in most other cars, setting the temp supersedes other settings and touching other settings turns off temperature-driven climate control. Why the hell would someone want the a/c on with the thumb wheel set to red (which is how I took delivery of my car, likely because a detailer inadvertently slid the thumbwheel to red)? So I think some of the BMW climate control settings are a little ridiculous but once I figured this out while driving home by moving the thumbwheel to blue the temp was fine and I haven't touched the thumbwheel since.

[F83]

The thumb wheel thing is just for fine tuning.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by F83

The thumb wheel thing is just for fine tuning.

Shouldn't need to be fine tuned if the temperature function works properly and moving the thumbwheel from blue to red is much more than a fine tune on a hot day. Having the a/c on with the thumbwheel in red will not allow the system to cool to the temperature set. The system works fine once you find the settings that work for you, but there shouldn't be a need to do much more than set the temp.

[DDD31]

The thumb wheel isn't necessarily for fine tuning, it allows you to vary the temperature of the air coming out of the center vents. During the winter, I like to have cool air blowing on my face while having warm air blow on my feet. The thumb wheel allows me to have the exact temperature air I want blowing on my face. When I drive other cars in the winter, I always get frustrated because it won't blow cool air on my face while keeping my feet nice and toasty. So I hope BMW never gets rid of the thumb wheel.

[bueller]

Originally Posted by USAM3

I know A/C doesn't need to be on to get fresh air and I didn't say anything about A/C. You do need to have the blower turned on though and that is my point. WTF should I have to read a manual to figure out auto climate control? Don't call it auto climate if it's not automatic.

I agree... My F31 so far, seems a lot better than my 1M which is awful. I have read the manual as I was trying to figure out how to sync the temperatures, it, like manuals for many things does nothing but point out the obvious, and I can't see there is a method to sync the temperatures after the passenger side has been adjusted other than dialing both sides to match. Not a big deal, just every other car I have experienced with dual climate control seems to have a 'sync' button.

Personally, I would prefer a manual system as the automatic does not seem to work as expected.

Why is it whenever someone raises a valid concern, the first couple of comments are something like, drive the car and enjoy it, or read the manual? If it were a BRZ / FR-S I would agree with the first statement, however for what these cars cost the AC should work properly, and owners manuals are not usually all that helpful.

It would be interesting to know how the system actually works, like what sensors are where and what parameters are controlled and how. I know these systems have baffles to redirect air to different parts of the cabin, and sensors, usually for the intensity of the sun on the top of the dash, and there are sensors in the AC control panel itself, however, I don't know if other parts of the cabin are monitored.

I had an issue in an Audi where my wife had put a chachka of some sort on the dash and it was blocking the sun sensor. Removed it and problem solved.

Have you thought about tinting your windows? I have found that helps a lot.

B.