Comparaison : E92 M3 vs. B8.5 RS5

Hé les gars,

Je lis beaucoup sur ce forum depuis de nombreuses années. J'ai décidé de créer un compte pour que je puisse vous poser une question. Je sais aussi que ce sujet a été discuté sur ce forum et sur youtube, etc. depuis des temps immémoriaux. Je vous demande de m'aider à prendre une décision.

Un peu d'arrière plan : je viens d'une longue lignée de BImmers, e46m3 (2 d'entre eux) quelques e90 par jour et actuellement tous les jours un e90 328xi. Cela dit, je vous demande votre avis sur la comparaison de ces deux voitures. J'ai économisé assez d'argent pour en posséder un dans un proche avenir et je compare actuellement un 2011 e92 m3 comp paquet, blanc sur l'intérieur rouge. Environ 100 000 km pour 27 000 $. OTOH 2013 Audi rs5 blanc, bang olufsen tous les bits etc. environ 32k

Je connais les points faibles des deux voitures et je les aborderais dès que j'achète la voiture (e92, roulements de tige) (rs5, accumulation de carbone)

Je sais que c'est un premier post long et je comprends que je suis sur un forum m3. J'ai conduit beaucoup de hwoever e90 m3 n'ont pas conduit la RS5.

Avertissement: Je ne suis jamais mes voitures, elles seraient utilisées occasionnellement et je conduis assez réservé à ce stade de ma vie. que diriez-vous sont les pooints plus de chaque plate-forme et d'un point de vue réaliste me convaincre d'obtenir l'e92.

Merci d'avance. Cheers:thumbsup:

Mon voisin avait une RS5. Joli intérieur. AWD. Le E92 pèse un peu moins, gère mieux et est légèrement plus rapide au-dessus d'environ 40 mph. Il y a des années, un magazine automobile avait testé les deux, mais j'ai oublié quel magazine.

I've driven rs5 and now own e92 m3. RS5 is more of a GT car that's nice to cruise in. M3's handling feels more direct and connected. Not a bad car but M3 is hands down more fun to drive IMO.

I was in the market for the RS5 about 5 years ago and while I did my research I ended up with an E90M3. If you don't need AWD, live in a warmer climate and want a lighter more lively car to drive the M3 is it.

Car and Driver Aug 2010

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a15129211/2011-audi-rs5-vs-2010-bmw-m3-2011-cadillac-cts-v-comparison-test/

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BeemerMon wrote

Car and Driver Aug 2010

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a15129211/2011-audi-rs5-vs-2010-bmw-m3-2011-cadillac-cts-v-comparison-test/

Depends on climate and use.
If you just commute or drive casually, or live in a cold/rainy area, RS5 sounds like a better fit.
If your roads/use are a little more fun, dry area, etc, the M3 is a little more fun/engaging.

wyatth wrote

Depends on climate and use.
If you just commute or drive casually, or live in a cold/rainy area, RS5 sounds like a better fit.
If your roads/use are a little more fun, dry area, etc, the M3 is a little more fun/engaging.

This. I drove both, chose M3 because it felt a little faster, more responsive, but I did really like the RS5. Now I'm selling the M3 because it's not working for me as a DD with cold, wet climate with occasional snow and wish I had gone with the RS5.

I have been driving mine in NH for the past 9 winters. I put snows on the stock wheels and bought lighter wider wheels for wider summer tires. I’d rather have a twin turbo V8 with AWD like an E63 AMG or the new M5 or twin turbo flat 6 like a newer 911 Turbo, but the E90 M3 gets me where I need to go and it was paid for long ago.

I've owned both. 5 years ago I had an e92 6spd and loved it. I had it for about a year but ended up selling it due to using the funds for a property purchase. It was a great daily driver - very comfortable, big trunk, and with snow tires it was actually really good in the winter.

About a year later when it came time to buy another "fun" car I went for an Audi S5 v8 with 6spd manual. That was also a great and fun car, although definitely more of a touring car. I liked it enough that I traded it in on an RS5, which honestly was a huge mistake. I loved that car for all of about a week. It's one of those cars that ticks all the right boxes on paper, but in real life was underwhelming. It was great to look at, but absolutely soulless and boring to drive. It's suspension was also very harsh - much more harsh than the M3. Also check out the maintenance costs - on top of the carbon build up, the DSG tranny also needs service constantly.

Fast forward a few years and I now have a dedicated daily driver (Tesla Model S P85D) but I'm considering picking up a nice e9x 6spd as a weekend car, mostly because it's really the most fun in a reasonable price range.

This sums up the problem with Front engine Audi's -

and the Audi arrives with the immediate disadvantage of having all eight of its cylinders mounted completely forward of the front axle line. That means the RS5 has an imbalance in its 4000-pound weight (56.3 percent front, 43.7 rear) that’s a recipe for understeer.

I took an rs5 out for an extended test drive while I was shopping for what became my m3.

Engine pulled hard and felt torquey. Hard to really say for sure, but it felt slightly faster than my m3. Sounded nice too - less induction noise but more exhaust burble. The DSG, which is a unit that is unique to the RS model, shifted seamlessly and was flawless. A bit boring as a result, but manual vs stick shift is a personal choice.

It did feel a size or 2 bigger than an e92, while also feeling more cramped on the inside, especially the back seat. Together with more body roll, noticeably heavier and less nimble feel, it felt like more of a GT than a sports car. The grip was incredible though.

Overall an excellent and charismatic car (due to the engine), that would easily make a great daily. Had it been available with a manual, I might have entertained buying it, but I still think I’d take an m3 DCT over it.

RS5 is a bit more of a GT car. Comfortable and fast, but it's going to feel heavy and sloppy. Still a pretty nice car that would be great for driving around town and maybe some spirited backroad outings.

I had this dilemma a couple months ago. Thought about switching my two car setup (e92 m3 and sentra) for just an RS5. I went and drove one and ended up sticking with the m3. The RS5 sounds sweet on paper, and it looks/feels cool. But its a total mismatch of parts, high revving low torque v8 in a heavy car that handles meh and feels somewhat numb. It either needed a v8 with more grunt, or a more nimble chassis for the 4.2.

I'd go for like an s6 or s5 honestly if you want a comfy while sporty daily. Save your money (or get a nicer/newer car for the money).

But if you really want to stick to RS5 vs M3 go with the M3. It's practically as comfortable as the rs5 for daily use. Most of all, the MASSIVE catalog of online support for this platform on the forums.

Go search for DIY's and fixes on the RS5, theres like 3 guys that actually contribute on the forum. I'd rather have the strong support/aftermarket the e9x has

Transfer wrote

wyatth wrote

Depends on climate and use.
If you just commute or drive casually, or live in a cold/rainy area, RS5 sounds like a better fit.
If your roads/use are a little more fun, dry area, etc, the M3 is a little more fun/engaging.

This. I drove both, chose M3 because it felt a little faster, more responsive, but I did really like the RS5. Now I'm selling the M3 because it's not working for me as a DD with cold, wet climate with occasional snow and wish I had gone with the RS5.

Where does it fall down weather wise?

Lucky1 wrote

Transfer wrote

wyatth wrote

Depends on climate and use.
If you just commute or drive casually, or live in a cold/rainy area, RS5 sounds like a better fit.
If your roads/use are a little more fun, dry area, etc, the M3 is a little more fun/engaging.

This. I drove both, chose M3 because it felt a little faster, more responsive, but I did really like the RS5. Now I'm selling the M3 because it's not working for me as a DD with cold, wet climate with occasional snow and wish I had gone with the RS5.

Where does it fall down weather wise?

Nothing unexpected, just RWD in wet and snowy hills is no good IMO. Not a big deal if you live in a dry climate or have another car for bad weather but our roads here are wet 50% of the year, not exaggerating, and I get snow occasionally and live up a big hill. So yeah I'm fully AWD camp now.

Based on your location and they way you drive, I would say the RS5 is for you.

Not sure about some, but driving Canadian winters, I find no real compromise driving balanced RWD cars with good snow tires vs 4wd with snow tires.

I’ve had an x5 and a WRX STI, and Outside of 1-2 exceptional days per year, there’s never any issue driving RWD with snow tires safety wise. Indeed, the lower overall adhesion in winter with snow tires makes the car more playful

14_deltaM3 wrote

Not sure about some, but driving Canadian winters, I find no real compromise driving balanced RWD cars with good snow tires vs 4wd with snow tires.

I’ve had an x5 and a WRX STI, and Outside of 1-2 exceptional days per year, there’s never any issue driving RWD with snow tires safety wise. Indeed, the lower overall adhesion in winter with snow tires makes the car more playful

agreed. with winter tires, a balanced RWD like the M3 is perfectly fine on ice or light snow. nowhere near as good as my former evo IX, however...that car was an absolute beast in the snow, even with all season tires.

Im in Ohio and we get All four seasons...Ironically, I was test driving the RS5 from an Audi dealership that I have done business with for many years. S4, A6, Q7 the list goes on....I didn't need the RS4 at the time; anyways, I am driving the RS5 and saw a nice E92 M3 sitting outside and pulled in to test drive it....the cool factor is the back to back testing. The rest was history. lol

Hello Everyone! I had problems with my original login. I am the OP! So based on what everyone said i ended up going with a beautiful 09 e90 M3. I must say I could not be happier! What a driving experience! I think the fun factor and community support swayed my decision.

Plus i have always been a BMW guy, couldnt convert over to the dark side just yet!