Saw a BYD in SoCal

RM7 wrote

That's easy, Israel and the US, this year and last year, to eliminate resistance to Israel continuing to take land and expanding settlements in other people's land. That's it. Those that believe in sky-fairies think they have the ultimate right to the land above anyone else. And once again, I'm waiting for someone to read the press release from June 2025, so you can see how, with no question, Iran's nuclear program was obliterated and set back years. You owe yourself that...then you can watch Netenyahu saying they are 2 weeks away from a nuclear bomb...for the last 20 years.

RM7 wrote

There's a significant difference in turbine engine technology given the size difference between the fan portion of the engine between both aircraft...

Car-Addicted wrote

Executive Party Ties: BYD’s billionaire founder, chairman, and CEO, Wang Chuanfu, is a known member of the CCP and a prominent ally to the central government.

BYD receives heavy direct and indirect state financial backing—amounting to billions of dollars in subsidies.

U.S. Military List: The U.S. Department of Defense has identified BYD as a "Chinese Military Company" (CMC) on its Section 1260H list. This designation reflects U.S. concerns over the "Military-Civil Fusion" (MCF) strategy, which integrates commercial companies into the People's Liberation Army (PLA) supply and research ecosystem.

Data Privacy & "Connected" Cars: Because modern BYD vehicles act as connected, data-gathering sensors, Western lawmakers have raised alarms over the potential for surveillance and data being sent back to Beijing under China's National Intelligence Law. This has prompted U.S. investigations and proposed legislation that could restrict or ban Chinese-connected vehicle software and hardware on U.S. roads.

Nothing to see here, move along
Great breakdown, the military-civil fusion angle is often overlooked. Curious if the US ban will actually go through or just stay in proposal limbo.

Powerday wrote

BYD is everywhere in Europe these days, so it's always surprising to hear how uncommon they still are in the US. It will be interesting to see whether they eventually find a way into the American passenger car market in a meaningful way.

M3WC wrote

Chinese EVs will not make it to US any time soon, if ever. There is a bipartisan effort to keep them out of US market.

For reference:

Recent Polestar exit from US was due to The Connected Vehicle Rule. Which was passed by the Biden admin. It finally kicked in for 2027 model year.

100% tariff on Chinese EVs was also passed by the Biden admin. They also raised tariffs on solar cells and semi-conductors to 50%. Lithium batteries and battery parts also got raised to 25%.

So it isn't just Chinese vehicles, it was a whole host of Chinese tech they trying to keep out of US markets.

Car-Addicted wrote

Mercedes-Benz could face US ban under Senate bill targeting Chinese-owned automakersThe German automaker has a nearly 20% passive Chinese investment, putting it above the bill's 15% ownership threshold
"Chinese cars are surveillance packages on wheels, with the ability to collect on American citizens and transmit that data back to Beijing," Slotkin said in a statement.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/mercedes-benz-could-face-us-ban-under-senate-bill-targeting-chinese-owned-automakers

So American government and companies harvesting our data GOOD, Chinese government and companies harvesting our data BAD?
How about NO governments and companies harvesting our data?

pz619 wrote

Honestly Tesla is pretty bad too. I have all my data sharing options set to off, but it’s not like they honor that. When you disengage FSD there is now a forced survey on why you turned it off. If you don’t take it, you can’t use the entertainment controls and it blocks part of your screen, indefinitely.

Also, if turn your data settings to private, it asks you to turn it back on every week or so. It also relentlessly wants to connect to home WiFi, where you get a different pop up. This is likely to be the last Tesla I own. Fuck Elon.