Clutch Spring

Hello, Was wondering if anyone can point me towards some information on the clutch spring delete----Procedure, initial and long-term driving impression, etc...

I have been set on going with the DCT, but after having my auto-manual in my G35 decide to not respond to me occasionally, I finally lost it and told my fiancee yesterday while back-roading it in W.Va ...

"Do not let me compromise on the M when we are getting ready to order. 6MT, F*ck this auto crap. I've had enough of the car being the boss of me." LOL.

While shopping for my Infiniti, I was dying to get the G with the 6-speed, but when trying to justify the purchase (hahahah, isn't that the never ending internal debate), stupidly convinced myself it was ok to get, as long as i had the AWD for those northeast winters. Well, the AWD isn't offered in the 6-speed, so I said, ok the auto box is reviewed with praise in this car, and was pretty happy with it on the test drive. Up until about 2 months ago, it was GREAT. Never a second guess, willing to give me 2nd at 58 or so--it maxes at around 62. For an auto, it worked, and worked very well. Now, after 18 months, I get some delays when I call for a gear, and sometimes it will revert to full auto (even when just started for the day, so its not any overheating issue) and I cant choose my own cog, unless I shut the car off, and restart it. Even then, it's highly likely to happen again, as soon as I start to push it. Now this is unsettling to say the least----imagine, going downhill into a banked left sweeper at around 60, posted turn speed 25-30, downshift to 2nd, let the engine keep the car at slight deceleration, and it suddenly reverts to full-auto (D-Mode), as I am rolling back onto the throttle now around 50mph. At this moment, the car is immediately sluggish and i realize that the trans has gone into 5th. That is when I lost my damned patience and made my previous statement. Enough of that, I AM THE BOSS, so it will be a 6MT at order time. haha Okay, thats enough venting, apologies.

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The auto of the G35/G37 is way off as compared to the M-DCT. In my own experience, you simply cannot compare the two. That is my number one complain when I drive my wife G37xS Auto (I don't even consider it an automated manual). But you cannot go wrong with the 6MT on the M.

I would assume it to be totally different than what is in the G, for sure. I think my brain though now is saying if the car can override what gear I want the car in for any reason, then my mind will reject the idea of driving it. I have to add the disclaimer that I plan on going to Spartansburg, and at least doing the 1 day class with the fiancee before ordering. I know that they use the DCT. That will be the one and only opportunity that BMW will have to get my additional ~~3K for the DCT. Barring that transmission being a revalation, I think its going to be 6MT.

Either way, the better half wont let me change my mind after asking her to not let me. She'll have to be thrilled with the DCT over the 6 to even contemplate not "reminding" me when it comes to spec' time. Shes good like that....

Thanks for the info, and keep the thoughts on anything I brought up coming.

Hey man, check here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195777.

I did the clutch spring delete and it was kind of a PITA but worth it. Do it!

I would LOVE to do it, but if you see my info, I don't have an M3.....yet. I'm still stabilizing financially from last year, so probably will be ordering a 2010 E90 for ED, if all goes well (Crosses fingers). I am just trying to glean as much information as I can before placing the order, as--like a lot of people--I am back and forth and back and forth as to DCT vs. 6MT.

Well it all comes down to this. Do you enjoying heel and toe, having the control of shifting in the palm of you hand, having a better feel of your clutch and gears?!!? Then the 6MT is for you Plus you save 3k:thumsup:

Test drive both trans and decide what you want. I know that you can even ask for a long test drive. There are times I wish that I should have chosen the MT but after a drive in my DCT, that is all gone and I am back to the DCT camp. I've been an MT driver for more than 25 years. So after driving the M3 for a year now, I am still 50/50. I like both, that's for sure. I also did the ED last year and that experience is priceless. The M3 is a head turner as compared here in the States.