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Supplement thread pre workout specific.

Tried:

NOxplode = mostly caffeine and ended up crashing after a couple cycles
black powder = less caffeine high and low, noticed more in the lift
Super pump = tastes the best, didn't work after first cycle I was immune
Nano vapor = garbage muscle tech crap ended up yawning during workouts once I was used to it
Jacked = liked it but left it for non supplement approach, need another pre workout cuz I don't have the jump start I used to
I was using mesomorph - loved it but the crash was really bad...

I want to try Napalm as its suppose to have the same effect but not as bad of a crash.
Jack3d=I guess I wake up because once I wake up I go to the gym, if I don't work out as hard, my nerves are all tingling hours later and my body is still warmer than normal.

Either that or just bubble gum and get PO'd in the morning and work out on rage.
I have a pre and during workout my company has just developed that is all natural. Not bad on your heart like other pre workouts. It is called Go and Pro! No crash, no racing heart, no excess heat from the niacin, and no jitters or tingles. Pure NRG! PM me if you wanna learn more, I'll give you a link.
Rhino
OP, over the past 5 years i have tried a number of products like yourself. I found that MP Assault, if cycled properly, works the best. No wild cramps (or dumps), crashes or jitters. Just solid energy :)
Haven't tried any other ones, but I've been using noXplode for a while now. Like using it, tastes good, kicks in fast, does what I need it to.
i like white flood
jacked
Motif wrote
OP, over the past 5 years i have tried a number of products like yourself. I found that MP Assault, if cycled properly, works the best. No wild cramps (or dumps), crashes or jitters. Just solid energy :)
Assault is awesome... I've used just about everything. SP250 used to be my PWO of choice, but Assault seems to work the best these days
I've tried everything you have OP, and I still love N.O. Xplode. Obviously you have to cycle off of any stim after a while but I've kept coming back to it. 2.0 is even better.
Assault is by far the best.
Been using Invincible, feels like Jack3d but much more controlled (less tweaky), after it wears off I go into zombie mode though.
trackfiend wrote
Assault is by far the best.
:party0030:
For anyone who has tried both, how does Assault stack up to Jack3d?
the list ive tried
NOexplode
blackpowder
dymatize (whatever preworkout they make)
superpump
jacked
nitroflex
maximizev2
and many more

Jacked was the best for me, not super strong in the caffeine department. Just right. Nitroflex is intense, apparently supposed to boost test levels (found out after i paid walking out of the store). Maximize v2 is intense but after workouts i wanna hibernate.

i would stick with jacked. its good stuff, not too tame but not too intense. just right.
I use bullnox. I have used most of the ones out there, but bullnox continues to be my favorite In essence they all do the same shit and its really hard to tell which one is better since they all hide how much of each major sup you need pre workout in a proprietary blend.
I refuse to buy anything from BSN or Muslcetech anymore, all overpriced and underdosed.
ZJP wrote
For anyone who has tried both, how does Assault stack up to Jack3d?
Assault doesn't make your face itch (Beta-Alanine) and i don't get any jitters. I rarely ever shit myself prior to the gym, Jack3d tore my guts with authority every time without fail, kinda like the SuperDump did. To me, Assault has a more aggressive of an ingredient profile. They are both good in their own way though Jack3d has been in hot water for making people fail piss tests. USP is currently under investigation by DOD and had banned all their products from military posts.
RambleJ wrote
I refuse to buy anything from BSN or Muscletech anymore, all overpriced and underdosed.
You sir obviously iz too smart for your own good. You see how purdy their ads are? You see what kind of superstarz they recruit to pose with thur product? That means their product is super good and you are not worthy of using it. Vapor Nano is the best product eva just ask GNC who was almost giving it away for free a month after its release! My word is bond. :thumsup:
Motif wrote
Assault doesn't make your face itch (Beta-Alanine) and i don't get any jitters. I rarely ever shit myself prior to the gym, Jack3d tore my guts with authority every time without fail, kinda like the SuperDump did. To me, Assault has a more aggressive of an ingredient profile. They are both good in their own way though Jack3d has been in hot water for making people fail piss tests. USP is currently under investigation by DOD and had banned all their products from military posts.
FYI, the face itching and redness is from Niacin not Beta Alanine.
Motif wrote
You sir obviously iz too smart for your own good. You see how purdy their ads are? You see what kind of superstarz they recruit to pose with thur product? That means their product is super good and you are not worthy of using it. Vapor Nano is the best product eva just ask GNC who was almost giving it away for free a month after its release! My word is bond. :thumsup:
:lol: That is totally true, if I take all the musletech products I will get huge like Jay Cutler. Beucause he takes that stuff! :rolleyes: