How to prevent wheel spin on M4

sonic17 · 12-09-2021, 10:38 PM

Hey guys, the relatively new driver here. I'm 18 and I got the wonderful privilege to get my hands on an M4 which is coming in a week or two (now before you go for my throat here, I am responsible and won't do any stupid shit on a public road). Now how can I prevent wheel spin as much as possible on this RWD monster? I live in a suburb by Dallas so winter and snow aren't really an issue and the roads aren't too bad. Your input would be very much appreciated!

DocL · 12-09-2021, 10:41 PM

Don't got WOT and you'll be okay. If it's a manual short shift at 3k RPMS. I have no problem controlling wheel spin with my right foot.

deeldoo · 12-09-2021, 10:47 PM

Don't floor the car in first or second gear.

Have extreme performance summer tires.. i.e. cup 2's, potenza's, etc.

Roll into the throttle, don't mash it or stomp.

RugbyBro · 12-09-2021, 10:48 PM

Honestly it's a very easy car to drive, especially in efficient throttle. Just don't stab the gas and you won't spin, and even if you do that TC is pretty effective (or intrusive some would say). The key is just having good throttle modulation with your foot.

Suds · 12-09-2021, 11:02 PM

Traction control is your friend, don’t turn that shit off!

Ask me how I know? I turned off TC to finish off my rear tires on my C7Z06 Vette on the way to have new tires installed. I got some serious wheel spin and damn near crashed it in a slide. I found out I can drive on a track, drifting probably not.

NSX2M4 · 12-10-2021, 05:16 AM

Get the GTS differential flash and if you're DCT get the GTS trans flash. It'll make the car lay down the power like it should and not like a mustang. Unless you are really pushing it, then it'll be more than willing to break free.

swagon · 12-10-2021, 05:43 AM

Smooth inputs and keep all the nannies on.

Get into a driving school.

AlmondJayRoM3 · 12-10-2021, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sonic17

Hey guys, the relatively new driver here. I'm 18 and I got the wonderful privilege to get my hands on an M4 which is coming in a week or two (now before you go for my throat here, I am responsible and won't do any stupid shit on a public road). Now how can I prevent wheel spin as much as possible on this RWD monster? I live in a suburb by Dallas so winter and snow aren't really an issue and the roads aren't too bad. Your input would be very much appreciated!

I never fully turn off traction control on the streets. Car is mainly in MDM mode unless I’m on a track. Allows for some wheel spin but like everyone else said smooth inputs in steering and gas especially when correcting. This goes with all vehicles, not just this car. One last thing: lift-off oversteer is a b…..

TopJimmy · 12-10-2021, 07:25 AM

Three simple words…
"Just go easy."

As you know, these cars are monsters…and cop magnets, so always go easy and "obviously respectful" on public roads. Your driving record will appreciate it.

On the other hand, whenever you are not on a public road and have a good safe opportunity, turn DSC completely off and learn the limits of the car. This teaches your brain the feeling BEFORE things get sideways.

Silverlining_m2 · 12-10-2021, 08:53 AM

If you smash the accelerator, you just might smash your ride too. It's all in the right foot.

And always drive manually in sequential mode. You will have much more control over the car.

SanchoDivine · 12-10-2021, 09:35 AM

Always keep traction control or preferably MDM on and you should be ok.

c4ss · 12-10-2021, 09:37 AM

Another one of these threads?

sonic17 · 12-10-2021, 10:48 AM

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Another one of these threads?

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Originally Posted by c4ss

Another one of these threads?

Answer a question or dont idk what you get out of an irrelevant reply like this.

khoa@x-ph.com · 12-10-2021, 11:21 AM

I don't know how good you are of a driver. But those F8x M cars are pretty easy to drive as long as you keep all the nannies on!!

TractionControlDelete · 12-10-2021, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SanchoDivine

Always keep traction control or preferably MDM on and you should be ok.

THIS

N1rve · 12-10-2021, 12:30 PM

Leave traction control on and be smooth with the gas. It's not undrivable where if you slightly tap the gas it sends you to the moon lol.

jmg · 12-10-2021, 03:35 PM

Have good tires, make sure they are warm before you drive aggressively, be easy on the throttle, start in 2nd, drive in comfort mode.

Comfort mode - you can still lose traction in comfort mode, max accelerator engagement is the same in all modes, it's just a bit more progressive which makes it harder to accidentally light up the rears.

Arcades · 12-10-2021, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic17

Hey guys, the relatively new driver here. I'm 18 and I got the wonderful privilege to get my hands on an M4 which is coming in a week or two (now before you go for my throat here, I am responsible and won't do any stupid shit on a public road). Now how can I prevent wheel spin as much as possible on this RWD monster? I live in a suburb by Dallas so winter and snow aren't really an issue and the roads aren't too bad. Your input would be very much appreciated!

Don't slam on your gas peddle until you have a far better idea of what to expect from the car. Leave all your nannies on until you know what to expect. The F8x throws full torque (all 400+ lbs of it) at you before 3k RPM, that is how most unskilled drivers crash.

Slowly work your way up into Sport and then Sport+. Learn how to throttle properly, don't lead foot it because that is where most of the Mustang crash videos comes from.

bsmf8x · 12-10-2021, 06:52 PM

If tc isn't fully off the Rwd is very safe unless your tires are not good for the conditions you're driving in (temps snow etc)

deeldoo · 12-10-2021, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic17

Hey guys, the relatively new driver here. I'm 18 and I got the wonderful privilege to get my hands on an M4 which is coming in a week or two (now before you go for my throat here, I am responsible and won't do any stupid shit on a public road). Now how can I prevent wheel spin as much as possible on this RWD monster? I live in a suburb by Dallas so winter and snow aren't really an issue and the roads aren't too bad. Your input would be very much appreciated!

I never fully turn off traction control on the streets. Car is mainly in MDM mode unless I’m on a track. Allows for some wheel spin but like everyone else said smooth inputs in steering and gas especially when correcting. This goes with all vehicles, not just this car. One last thing: lift-off oversteer is a b…..

Was going to say..

Lift off oversteer is the real animal in the room. I lost it myself and ended up in a wall with lift off oversteer.

It's a brutal beast, and it's very very hard to catch even by seasoned veterans.

I would urge OP to be very very careful, i learned my lesson.

MW F82 ///M4 · 12-10-2021, 11:10 PM

Traction control does an amazing job of keeping this thing on the road.. that and tires. Just upgraded from pss to 4s, and it’s like driving a different car!

dzxy · 12-16-2021, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by deeldoo

Was going to say..

Lift off oversteer is the real animal in the room. I lost it myself and ended up in a wall with lift off oversteer.

It's a brutal beast, and it's very very hard to catch even by seasoned veterans.

I would urge OP to be very very careful, i learned my lesson.

Great tip! I will remember this when doing spirited driving, thanks

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DocL Captain 1954 Rep 881 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Delray Beach iTrader: (2)	Don't got WOT and you'll be okay. If it's a manual short shift at 3k RPMS. I have no problem controlling wheel spin with my right foot. __________________ 2018 F80 M3. YMB/BLK. ZCP. Three Pedals. "Education will never be as expensive as ignorance."
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deeldoo Captain 1124 Rep 845 Posts Drives: BMW M4 - DCT 2016 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Don't floor the car in first or second gear. Have extreme performance summer tires.. i.e. cup 2's, potenza's, etc. Roll into the throttle, don't mash it or stomp.
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RugbyBro Brigadier General 7609 Rep 3,611 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: SF iTrader: (0)	Honestly it's a very easy car to drive, especially in efficient throttle. Just don't stab the gas and you won't spin, and even if you do that TC is pretty effective (or intrusive some would say). The key is just having good throttle modulation with your foot. __________________ Current: F80 Prior: F82, F32
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Suds /M Enthusiast 1606 Rep 1,619 Posts Drives: Responsiblish Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Lone Star State iTrader: (1)	Traction control is your friend, don’t turn that shit off! Ask me how I know? I turned off TC to finish off my rear tires on my C7Z06 Vette on the way to have new tires installed. I got some serious wheel spin and damn near crashed it in a slide. I found out I can drive on a track, drifting probably not. __________________ 2019 M2 Comp, Alpine White, DCT, track car build, 1/2 cage, AP Racing Brakes & Nitron Coilovers, BM3 Stage 1 93 Oct. 2018 Porsche Cayman GTS, Night Blue Metalic, PDK, COBB tuned 93 Oct. 2004 Audi A4 Avant USP 6mt, RS4 clutch, built motor, Garrett GT3071r "Big Ass Turbo" Motoza Tune
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NSX2M4 Major 1431 Rep 1,383 Posts Drives: 2019 M4 ZCP- RIVIAN R1S QUAD Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: FTL, FL iTrader: (1)	Get the GTS differential flash and if you're DCT get the GTS trans flash. It'll make the car lay down the power like it should and not like a mustang. Unless you are really pushing it, then it'll be more than willing to break free.
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TopJimmy Major General 5539 Rep 5,213 Posts Drives: 2023 M3 Comp xDrive Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Chester County, PA iTrader: (5)	Three simple words… "Just go easy." As you know, these cars are monsters…and cop magnets, so always go easy and "obviously respectful" on public roads. Your driving record will appreciate it. On the other hand, whenever you are not on a public road and have a good safe opportunity, turn DSC completely off and learn the limits of the car. This teaches your brain the feeling BEFORE things get sideways. __________________ '18 F80 Base 6MT \| '19 F82 Exec DCT \| '18 F82 Comp Exec DCT \| '23 G80cx
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MW F82 ///M4 Private 52 Rep 65 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Henderson Nevada iTrader: (1)	Traction control does an amazing job of keeping this thing on the road.. that and tires. Just upgraded from pss to 4s, and it’s like driving a different car!
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