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saildoc wrote
Good points all. I am a surgeon and every hour I spend on the phone to someone at BMWNA or my dealer represents a significant opportunity cost. The unloading of the stress of dealing with this is priceless.
The guy who is selling the car has already been in contact with my dealer and has all the info about what transpired as well so there is full disclosure. He told me yesterday that if it isn't sold by Saturday he will buy it for himself to drive for a while.
The difficulty with the Lemon law angle is the dealer claims the car is now functioning as it is designed. I disagree. BMWNA is going by what the dealer says. I know the owner of the dealership as well as several of his "customer service" personal. Their local reputation is legendary. Not in a good way. The whole thing is a joke. I am voting with my dollars now and directing them over the Porsche and possibly Maserati.
I am glad that the majority of people on this site have had a great experience with their M3's. It is truly a great car, the best engine I have ever sat behind. I will keep you all updated with pics and progress of the Cayman build-some people have called them Cayman RS's and I think that is appropriate.
Cheers all.
Good for you I would have done the same thing. But you got to admit you're going to miss driving the M3 home after a sh*tty ass night of call.
OC3 wrote
BMW makes great cars, but the dealer network isn't owned/controlled by BMW. So, these cars sell themselves, despite incompetent and unprofessional personnels employed at various dealers.
I guess that explains things. I've had absolutely great experiences at Mountain View and Santa Clara, and horrific experiences at East Bay and Weatherford. I was wondering why there was so much variation in the level of service in the BMW system.

I've been to a few Merc and Lexus dealers and have had consistently good service-even without purchasing a car. I couldn't really figure out why it as so inconsistent with BMW.
now I have decide what to replace it with?
A hard edged Cayman R or a custom Cayman RS....
The new Porsche 991 looks nice...
Used Lambo?
Endless possibilities....
saildoc wrote
now I have decide what to replace it with?
A hard edged Cayman R or a custom Cayman RS....
The new Porsche 991 looks nice...
Used Lambo?
Endless possibilities....
SailDoc, I am in a similar position, in that my case with BMWNA is now with the lawyers. Their attitude is, "so sue me".:D
I left a 997.2S to go M3, and I am already on the 991 purchase. The 991 is a monster and hits all the right buttons. The again, so does the Cayman/boxster. A 2004 Boxster S is what made me appreciate Porsche and mid-engine dynamics.
Too bad that BMW wants to be a ball-buster. I imagine that you are in a financial position to have made them a bag of money over the years! Keep us up to date on the porsche!!
Sorry to see u go. Hope they are reading this thread.
I am the customer that buys a new car every two to three years. For the last 15 it has been from BMW. I liked their products and tolerated their service. Now I am done with them. They will lose out on another 8-10 new cars I would have bought from them......
Have you driven a 991? Very exciting car. Have a boxster race car that totally changed the way I think about driving fun and involvment. Thinking a Cayman with a modded GTS 3.8 motor is the way the go.
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saildoc wrote
I am the customer that buys a new car every two to three years. For the last 15 it has been from BMW. I liked their products and tolerated their service. Now I am done with them. They will lose out on another 8-10 new cars I would have bought from them......
Have you driven a 991? Very exciting car. Have a boxster race car that totally changed the way I think about driving fun and involvment. Thinking a Cayman with a modded GTS 3.8 motor is the way the go.
Stuttgart 1 - Munich 0
HI saildoc, I have not driven the 991 yet, but a few of my friends got a quick look at them and ride along. I think it is going to be a very fine example of the 911 marque. It also seems like the new design elements will trickle to the boxster/cayman. I would love to have a cayman for a while after the M3. So far, I am liking the M3....especially the trunk!! Never knew how much I missed having one!
Anyway, good luck on the purchase and maybe I'll see you over at 6speed forums!
Good luck with the Cayman, keep us updated.
Ok, if you need four seats the M3 is hard to beat. If you only need two seats you are so missing out. Cayman R, direct, involving and feels oh so fast. Drive one if you are lucky. After you spend 5 minutes in one you will figure out a way to buy one.....
BMW has developed a very fair and evenly applied process for customer complaints. The problem is, it has been tuned to handle idiots who complain about idiotic things. Unfortunately, the result is that they treat everyone like idiots.