I'm sorry but I can't unsee M3 Touring haemorrhoids

Is that a single piston cast iron caliper on a carbon ceramic rotor?

GuidoK wrote

Is that a single piston cast iron caliper on a carbon ceramic rotor?

Who cares...more G-series lameness.

You're talking the shape of the rear bumper? That it looks like it's pooping, or maybe having a baby? If that's it, I agree, it's ugly / dumb looking but I guess if you want to continue owning BMW's you have to get over it. And of course if the cars keep selling they (or at a minimum some folks here) will say it's evidence that people love it. At least judging by the grille discussions.

If you're talking about something else then - sorry for the change of subject. But that's a dumb bumper shape and I just had to say it.

Ugliness revealed on this similar topic:
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=28702594&postcount=552
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29053572#post29053572
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=29037817&postcount=708
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Some primates might find that rear bumpershape attractive....

GuidoK wrote

Is that a single piston cast iron caliper on a carbon ceramic rotor?

that's a $10,000 carbon ceramic rotor on a $100 single piston

tracer bullet wrote

You're talking the shape of the rear bumper? That it looks like it's pooping, or maybe having a baby? If that's it, I agree, it's ugly / dumb looking but I guess if you want to continue owning BMW's you have to get over it. And of course if the cars keep selling they (or at a minimum some folks here) will say it's evidence that people love it. At least judging by the grille discussions.

If you're talking about something else then - sorry for the change of subject. But that's a dumb bumper shape and I just had to say it.

my apologies, yes i am roasting the bumper. i just cannot unsee this. you'd think it's the nose of an odd Japanese 90s car

DrFerry wrote

Ugliness revealed on this similar topic:
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=28702594&postcount=552
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29053572#post29053572
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=29037817&postcount=708
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i thought I only hated the front, but it turns out the rear is not much better.

maybe the side profile is ok? but i can't stand the different sized wheels and different profile tyres, also the front arch appears large while the rear wheel arch appears much smaller (probably for aero, front wheels still need to turn)

tracer bullet wrote

You're talking the shape of the rear bumper? That it looks like it's pooping, or maybe having a baby? If that's it, I agree, it's ugly / dumb looking but I guess if you want to continue owning BMW's you have to get over it. And of course if the cars keep selling they (or at a minimum some folks here) will say it's evidence that people love it. At least judging by the grille discussions.

If you're talking about something else then - sorry for the change of subject. But that's a dumb bumper shape and I just had to say it.

Yes, the rear bumper but I'm referring to the G series more broadly. I've moved on from BMW years ago so I'm already over it.

just for comparison i dug up direct competitors

i should be fair, putting the whole side profile up. hmm the shadow is making it worse lol

DrFerry wrote

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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=28702594&postcount=552
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29053572#post29053572
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it could have been amazing

G80M4 wrote

DrFerry wrote

Ugliness revealed on this similar topic:
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=28702594&postcount=552
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29053572#post29053572
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=29037817&postcount=708
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2918242&stc=1&d=1656343242

it could have been amazing like my car (this is not 'my' car)
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https://on-desktop.com/wps/2021Auto___BMW_BMW_M340i_XDrive_D_HLer__2021_front_view_150583_.jpg

Totally agree. They say sales were outstanding but just think for a second how much better sales could've been -> had they not pawned people off with the beaver tooth grill across various products. In other words they left money on the table as some customers walked away. The after market companies that make different front bumper clips probably made out like bandits. Consider also that around the same time the beaver tooth grill was launching Alfa Romeo launched the Quatrofoglio (spelling?) V6 twin turbo. IF ugliness sells cars nowadays to the brainwashed MK Ultra sleepwalking masses then German companies are gonna clean up. The problem is many of those same people work for the car makers. What's next fish gills and Guppy grills? And people say the C8 is ugly. I'll take a base C8 anyday over an M3/M4 and the wagon beast thingie.

G80M4 wrote

i should be fair, putting the whole side profile up. hmm the shadow is making it worse lol

The MB is overall much cleaner, but the Audi still has a bit of a hemorrhoid bumper. The Bimmer roofline is nicer though, especially where the hatch and rear window share the same angle. Benz rear window arcing down like that and not matching roof/hatch gives me R class vibes.

G80M4 wrote

I am with you !

God I hate that base Honda Civic rear brake caliper. $100k car and they put that thing on it, just unbelievable.

Inspiration

GuidoK wrote

Is that a single piston cast iron caliper on a carbon ceramic rotor?

It's obviously a steel rotor. Carbon ceramic wouldn't have the machining marks, not to mention it doesn't look anything like a carbon ceramic rotor. F90 M5 and later all have sliding rear calipers, and they work fine because the rear isn't that critical.

G80M4 wrote

that's a $10,000 carbon ceramic rotor on a $100 single piston

Are you MFers blind or what? It's a steel rotor. Even if you didn't know what steel looks like, the caliper is red, not gold. Mercedes has moved to this rear setup also on many cars. It's clearly sufficient as the lap times show, and the M4 CSL still has the same single piston rear setup. I'll trust the engineers at Brembo.

It's weird that your name is G80M4 and you're criticizing a car for having an exhaust that hangs down just like the other G8x cars. Not to mention that no one ever looks at a car at that angle, nearly on the ground. If you take pics of a G80 or G82 it's not gonna look that much better.

my bad, indeed just looked up carbon ceramics on the M3 -

gold calipers and quad pistons on the rear (6 in the front)