BPMSport Tuned 240E Software – Dyno Results - 430HP

Mike, have you had a chance to tune a car running the latest BMW software yet, ISTA/P 2.48? I'm curious if there's any differences in the tuning ability. Sorry I don't know the correctly terminology ie 231E, 240E etc. If not, I can make that happen of you like. I already have a tune running a 240E base supposedly, but I would be interested in trying yours out if you think it's worth it. I know you're extremely busy, but PM me if I can be of assistance. Your tune always looks so damn appealing!

Bmw135er wrote

Mike, have you had a chance to tune a car running the latest BMW software yet, ISTA/P 2.48? I'm curious if there's any differences in the tuning ability. Sorry I don't know the correctly terminology ie 231E, 240E etc. If not, I can make that happen of you like. I already have a tune running a 240E base supposedly, but I would be interested in trying yours out if you think it's worth it. I know you're extremely busy, but PM me if I can be of assistance. Your tune always looks so damn appealing!

Thank you,

Yes, I've tuned cars on ISTA/P 2.48. It's still 240E, so it's the exact same software that was in ISTA/P 2.47.1.

231E came into play on ISTA/P 2.46.3 I believe. The mapping is pretty much identical from 231E to 240E - only difference to maps is the oil temperature RPM protection level was lowered in 240E.

The ISTA/P integration level is across all cars, so a different number doesn't necessarily mean that the software has changed in a specific control unit.

Mike, how far away do you think before it is possible to have a tune flashed/flashed back to stock with an iphone app/wireless OBDII? That would be super cool!

flipm3 wrote

Great video! Sounds freaking awesome.

I seriously need some sort of cat delete haha.....and Euro MDM Retrofit.

Mike did cat deletes and euro mdm coding on my car. DO IT! I promise you wont be disappointed

Mike Benvo wrote

Yes, wideband - also logging vanos targeted position vs actual position for intake and exhaust camshafts. I use many different tools to log, from factory tools such as INPA, BT, and the logging software I posted a picture of. Big difference between setting actual targets and actually achieving them. You can see from the screenshot I posted that the targeted position and actual position almost match exactly.

No knock. I run less ignition timing than DINAN does I couldn't believe my eyes the other day when a DINAN car I retuned in Canada (chowster I think is his name on this board) had 37 degree ignition targets at redline using 91 octane. Way too much! A lot of tuners like to set timing targets high and ride on the knock sensors. I prefer to set realistic and achievable targets and use the knock sensors as a secondary means to reduce ignition timing.

This way the car is always happy and isn't trying to overshoot.

Now I did put a 95-96 octane tune in my car the other day with 100 octane fuel and I'm about ready to move to the east coast just because the fuel here in CA is terrible. The difference with higher octane is massive. You can actually hear the engine note change around 6,500 RPM and up (if you listen closely) due to the cam timing adjustments:

My plugs have 18k on them. On the track I was hitting 8,800 RPM. God I love this V8.

Your killing me! I cant wait till I am in a position for an E90 M3 next year God Willing.

Mike I am interested in your tune. I currently have the VF-Engineering Hex-Flash tune. Not a big improvement for the price. I am looking forward to the group buy. Will I be able to use my cable that came with the Hex-Flash?

Mike Benvo wrote

Let me know, euro MDM is a blast and is part of the standard coding options I offer (if you already have the M button). And of course for those that don't, the entire Mdrive functionality (MDM, servotronic steering, sport plus) can be retrofitted remotely as well.

Thanks!

What is Euro MDM? how is it different than the US spec? what does it actual change? Thanks!

Someone should post before and after dynos on a dynojet. Bone stock vs Mike's tune.

Superfly_M3 wrote

Someone should post before and after dynos on a dynojet. Bone stock vs Mike's tune.

Here's one from a long time ago (w/o rev limit increase) :

Yeah!! I want to see more dynos too!!

Thanks for sharing that graph Mike. There are big bumps in power in all the fun parts of the powerband

Nice graph Mike, I always wondered what the dip in power was around 6700rpm. it seems every car has it. What is that?

I had Mike tune my car several weeks ago. I was running a Vishnu Proceed with Meth before, but it was time for a change. Mike sent me a cable after a brief text conversation and a paypal transaction. My cable arrived 3 days later and I would have been ready to tune except my car was at the dealership for a bad wheel bearing (explained in another thread). I got my car back at 6:30 p.m and Mike was remote tuning my car by 8:30. Customer service is definitely one of BPMsports' strong points. The remote tuning was very simple on this end. Load the tuning software, load a remote access software, and plug in the cable. First Mike loaded the latest BMW firmware on the car (optional). Then he loaded his tune:

91 OCT (El Paso sucks)
4500 rpm warm up redline
Catless w/cold start and SES delete
Launch Control for 6MT

The launch control can be set wherever you like it. I have it set at 3500. I'd like to experiment with 4-4.5, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to maintain traction. It works like a champ though. At a stop you keep your clutch pedal fully pressed to the floor and just slam on the gas. The car will hold 3500 rpm until you feather out the clutch, then off you go.

The tune is as everyone else has posted. Very smooth and a significant improvement over the factory settings. As for whether it's better than the Proceed with meth, there's pros and cons.

Pros:
Customer Service
Flash based tune, so no interfering with the ECU/DME signal or wiring
Cold Start Delete
Warm up RPM limiting
Launch Control
No meth required
The SES has not reared its ugly head

Cons:
About a 8-10 hp reduction and any other benefits from not running meth (not proven by a dyno; the only dyno I've found in El Paso is not very good)

Mike also did the coding on my M3. I wrote a review on that in the Review forum. Since then, I was able to test the limits of the Euro MDM at an autocross weekend. I ran MDM on every run. I was able to push the car right to the limit of cornering without interference and when things got out of hand, and on a couple corners, it did, the DSC interfered and saved me from spinning out. The Euro MDM is a must.

Longbow64 wrote

I had Mike tune my car several weeks ago. I was running a Vishnu Proceed with Meth before, but it was time for a change. Mike sent me a cable after a brief text conversation and a paypal transaction. My cable arrived 3 days later and I would have been ready to tune except my car was at the dealership for a bad wheel bearing (explained in another thread). I got my car back at 6:30 p.m and Mike was remote tuning my car by 8:30. Customer service is definitely one of BPMsports' strong points. The remote tuning was very simple on this end. Load the tuning software, load a remote access software, and plug in the cable. First Mike loaded the latest BMW firmware on the car (optional). Then he loaded his tune:

91 OCT (El Paso sucks)
4500 rpm warm up redline
Catless w/cold start and SES delete
Launch Control for 6MT

The launch control can be set wherever you like it. I have it set at 3500. I'd like to experiment with 4-4.5, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to maintain traction. It works like a champ though. At a stop you keep your clutch pedal fully pressed to the floor and just slam on the gas. The car will hold 3500 rpm until you feather out the clutch, then off you go.

The tune is as everyone else has posted. Very smooth and a significant improvement over the factory settings. As for whether it's better than the Proceed with meth, there's pros and cons.

Pros:
Customer Service
Flash based tune, so no interfering with the ECU/DME signal or wiring
Cold Start Delete
Warm up RPM limiting
Launch Control
No meth required
The SES has not reared its ugly head

Cons:
About a 8-10 hp reduction and any other benefits from not running meth (not proven by a dyno; the only dyno I've found in El Paso is not very good)

Mike also did the coding on my M3. I wrote a review on that in the Review forum. Since then, I was able to test the limits of the Euro MDM at an autocross weekend. I ran MDM on every run. I was able to push the car right to the limit of cornering without interference and when things got out of hand, and on a couple corners, it did, the DSC interfered and saved me from spinning out. The Euro MDM is a must.

Hi Dylan,

Good to hear you are enjoying the tune. Glad the pesky check engine light isn't a consistent burden as it was with the previous setup you were running.

You mentioned that you wanted to try the launch control at 4,000 RPM as well as higher. Check your email - have sent you two files - one of them with it set at 4,000 and the other one set at 4,500 RPM. Load them in at your leisure and let me know your thoughts. If you find that something between 4K and 4.5K would be the best, let me know and I'll shoot another file over.

Meth obviously works wonders in bringing down the IAT temperatures which leads to a power gain. If you'd like to put the Meth back on, I can write you a file suited for that and I bet you'll pickup close to 20hp. There is only so much than can be done with low octane and high elevations!

Glad you are also enjoying the Euro MDM, and thanks for your comments about our service. Happy holidays!

Mike

There are simply no tuning tricks that will allow the same ignition timing with 91 octane as with 91 octane plus meth. As a Vishnu Procede + Meth owner, I am curious what Mike could do with the meth on.

Just got back home.. had the opportunity to run a brand new RS5...

I asked him how much power it had, and he said "460, that one has 416 right?" I replied "Yeah, something like that".

So off we went from a second gear roll - even in second, and the destruction happened in third and fourth. I think he wishes he bought an M3 instead!

That was awesome. Next please. I love this car.

Mike Benvo wrote

Just got back home.. had the opportunity to run a brand new RS5...

I asked him how much power it had, and he said "460, that one has 416 right?" I replied "Yeah, something like that".

So off we went from a second gear roll - even in second, and the destruction happened in third and fourth. I think he wishes he bought an M3 instead!

That was awesome. Next please. I love this car.

"Yeah, something like that"

Mike Benvo wrote

Just got back home.. had the opportunity to run a brand new RS5...

I asked him how much power it had, and he said "460, that one has 416 right?" I replied "Yeah, something like that".

So off we went from a second gear roll - even in second, and the destruction happened in third and fourth. I think he wishes he bought an M3 instead!

That was awesome. Next please. I love this car.

Excellent to know I love surprising people even with my stockish/slightly modified M3. They always say only 420 horses??? Doesn't even have 300 ft/lbs tq?? That's a clown car, bro, they say.

Boy do I love ripping them a new one when I give them a ride or run against their Audis, MB or corvettes. Mike, can't wait to get your tune! Please keep a cable on the side for me like you said!

Mike

Mike Benvo wrote

Just got back home.. had the opportunity to run a brand new RS5...

I asked him how much power it had, and he said "460, that one has 416 right?" I replied "Yeah, something like that".

So off we went from a second gear roll - even in second, and the destruction happened in third and fourth. I think he wishes he bought an M3 instead!

That was awesome. Next please. I love this car.

Mike, I love my bpm tune and after riding in yours I want to get my car as faster! What do you think about pulleys? Worth the money?

Longbow64 wrote

I had Mike tune my car several weeks ago. I was running a Vishnu Proceed with Meth before, but it was time for a change. Mike sent me a cable after a brief text conversation and a paypal transaction. My cable arrived 3 days later and I would have been ready to tune except my car was at the dealership for a bad wheel bearing (explained in another thread). I got my car back at 6:30 p.m and Mike was remote tuning my car by 8:30. Customer service is definitely one of BPMsports' strong points. The remote tuning was very simple on this end. Load the tuning software, load a remote access software, and plug in the cable. First Mike loaded the latest BMW firmware on the car (optional). Then he loaded his tune:

91 OCT (El Paso sucks)
4500 rpm warm up redline
Catless w/cold start and SES delete
Launch Control for 6MT

The launch control can be set wherever you like it. I have it set at 3500. I'd like to experiment with 4-4.5, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to maintain traction. It works like a champ though. At a stop you keep your clutch pedal fully pressed to the floor and just slam on the gas. The car will hold 3500 rpm until you feather out the clutch, then off you go.

The tune is as everyone else has posted. Very smooth and a significant improvement over the factory settings. As for whether it's better than the Proceed with meth, there's pros and cons.

Pros:
Customer Service
Flash based tune, so no interfering with the ECU/DME signal or wiring
Cold Start Delete
Warm up RPM limiting
Launch Control
No meth required
The SES has not reared its ugly head

Cons:
About a 8-10 hp reduction and any other benefits from not running meth (not proven by a dyno; the only dyno I've found in El Paso is not very good)

Mike also did the coding on my M3. I wrote a review on that in the Review forum. Since then, I was able to test the limits of the Euro MDM at an autocross weekend. I ran MDM on every run. I was able to push the car right to the limit of cornering without interference and when things got out of hand, and on a couple corners, it did, the DSC interfered and saved me from spinning out. The Euro MDM is a must.

Great feedback, the launch control sounds really cool. I'd be interested to see what Mike could do with the meth tuning as well.

I just loaded and tested the 4k rpm launch control. This is definitely the "sweet spot." Generally, I would lose about 250-800 rpm when feathering the clutch to launch. This keeps the revs well within the powerband and the vehicle remains controllable (I was in Euro MDM). At 3500 rpm the car felt like it was dragging through the band. I haven't tested the 4500 rpm launch control file, but I think that will result in too much wheel spin and would eat into the available band in 1st gear.

Wish you guys were closer!! :,(

kerkiraios00 wrote  

Wish you guys were closer!! :,(

It can all be done remotely.