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I ordered some Turner test pipes to match up with my M Performance exhaust. I'll get some before and after clips with my GoPro3. They're en route and I'll get a chance to install them next Sunday.
SYZ wrote
I ordered some Turner test pipes to match up with my M Performance exhaust. I'll get some before and after clips with my GoPro3. They're en route and I'll get a chance to install them next Sunday.
Nice! You sell your other car yet? Looks like you're getting your M in great shape. Looking forward to seeing the changes. :thumbsup:
SYZ wrote  
I ordered some Turner test pipes to match up with my M Performance exhaust. I'll get some before and after clips with my GoPro3. They're en route and I'll get a chance to install them next Sunday.
My car came with the M-Performance exhaust on it. The exhaust sounded really exotic with the perfect pitch. It sounds better outside the car than from the cabin, in the cabin it's too quiet IMO.
If I could have paired it with an X-Pipe, without it getting raspy, I would have kept it.
I am very interested to hear your thoughts after installing the test pipes.

Most people that were selling their M-Performance (myself included) were selling because they wanted to pair with an X-Pipe.
JAM3S wrote
Im sorry when you buy a muffler you are mainly looking to change the sound.....

Oh you must be one of those guys who thinks you can get 15whp from a muffler swap lol...... carry on.
Actually no Dbag....I supercharged my M3 for more power, but thanks for the useless commentary.

My point was a higher price tag does not equal MORE sound as you so ineptly stated...

Akrapovic....arguably one of the BEST made exhausts on the market with a high price tag to match....far from the loudest on the market.

Gintani Race....in the middle range of the price spectrum, one of the loudest units you can buy.

Now run along and go play in your sandbox :slap:
You can buy this exhaust new from a dealer on ebay for $3200 all day long.
PhoenixRising wrote
Nice! You sell your other car yet? Looks like you're getting your M in great shape. Looking forward to seeing the changes. :thumbsup:
Thanks Jimmy! I also ordered some Eibach springs too.. Haven't sold the other car yet; it's tough selling a modified car. We'll see what happens with that. Oh, but here's a video of me racing my brother's Genesis in it... He gave up after a certain point. Bad start, but once the turbo spooled.. buh bye. :slap:
j2m wrote
My car came with the M-Performance exhaust on it. The exhaust sounded really exotic with the perfect pitch. It sounds better outside the car than from the cabin, in the cabin it's too quiet IMO.
If I could have paired it with an X-Pipe, without it getting raspy, I would have kept it.
I am very interested to hear your thoughts after installing the test pipes.

Most people that were selling their M-Performance (myself included) were selling because they wanted to pair with an X-Pipe.
Test pipes seem to make the most sense.. if it gets too raspy or doesn't sound right, then they can be taken off and resonators welded into them. :thumbsup:
chris s wrote
Actually no Dbag....I supercharged my M3 for more power, but thanks for the useless commentary.

My point was a higher price tag does not equal MORE sound as you so ineptly stated...

Akrapovic....arguably one of the BEST made exhausts on the market with a high price tag to match....far from the loudest on the market.

Gintani Race....in the middle range of the price spectrum, one of the loudest units you can buy.

Now run along and go play in your sandbox :slap:
My point >

your head
When did I say a higher price tag equals more sound???

I was just complaining that the M-performance, one of the more expensive mufflers out there, is too quiet. So your whole post makes no sense.

My argument was that if you are going to pay that much for a muffler you should get the whole package; sound and quality.

Theres a reason why the M-performance and Akra are 2 of the mufflers most often for sale on the used parts section on this forum.

Now use your head for once and apply those lost reading comprehension skills before you derail the thread with another long and unlettered post.

kthanxbai!
JAM3S wrote

When did I say a higher price tag equals more sound???
"That exhaust is overpriced for the sound you get." -Dbag

Reading comp101. Maybe it's not what you MEANT to imply...but you made a direct correlation between "sound" and price. Whether you meant loudness or quality of sound is irrelevant. Both are stupid comments... You're paying that price obviously for OEM build quality/fit and the BMW name.
Holy crap, Dan. Your Focus is a beast! Good luck in the sell. I'm looking to do the AA X-Pipe/HFC option. Just called them to talk about emissions. That's something I have to think about. Do I wanna swap it out every other year? Not sure yet.
SYZ wrote
I ordered some Turner test pipes to match up with my M Performance exhaust. I'll get some before and after clips with my GoPro3. They're en route and I'll get a chance to install them next Sunday.
Great. I am very interested in your feedback on how it sounds :thumbsup:
PhoenixRising wrote
Holy crap, Dan. Your Focus is a beast! Good luck in the sell. I'm looking to do the AA X-Pipe/HFC option. Just called them to talk about emissions. That's something I have to think about. Do I wanna swap it out every other year? Not sure yet.
You won't need to out here. They plug into the OBD-2 port and so long as you don't have more than 1 code stored, you'll pass. Mike should be able to set your tune up for the removed cat. They don't do visual inspections out here. I passed with my focus (no cats, motor swap, turbo).
I had Eisenmann Race with X-Pipe before and just got the Lime Rock which has performance exhaust. Obviously much quieter, but like others have said the Inconel material really provides a different resonance....it sounds great. I am installing the x-pipe (no secondary cats) tomorrow and will report back on how that sounds. If that sounds good I'll sell you my eisenmann race haha

And btw, the catback install is easy. Just need some WD40. I did it with ramps.
The M Performance exhaust definitely has a unique tone that's somewhat exotic. The iconel is part of why it's more money. You used to be able to option Eisenmann exhaust in inconel also, which raises the prie significantly. Not sure if they still offer that option or not. The Eisenmann race is definitely deeper in tone as well as louder. That's why you also get some pretty major drone at 3k rpms. Not everyone likes bass to practically make the car unbearable to drive at that rpm. For those that drive on the highway a lot, that's a major factor since its right in that rpm window most of the time. Just some things to think about. Exhaust sound is very subjective!
thegeneral101 wrote
I had Eisenmann Race with X-Pipe before and just got the Lime Rock which has performance exhaust. Obviously much quieter, but like others have said the Inconel material really provides a different resonance....it sounds great. I am installing the x-pipe (no secondary cats) tomorrow and will report back on how that sounds. If that sounds good I'll sell you my eisenmann race haha

And btw, the catback install is easy. Just need some WD40. I did it with ramps.
Interested to hear this setup. Are you able to get some video of revs and also under acceleration?
SYZ wrote
Interested to hear this setup. Are you able to get some video of revs and also under acceleration?
yeah I'll take a before and after. I'll try to make the sound quality higher if I have time (ie not with a smartphone).
what kind of paint are people throwing on the cans to black them out? i know that turner sells it already painted, but they are 800-1000 over where i can find them on EBAY and paint them myself.
Install should be no more than $100...

definitely a DIY if you're up for it.
SYZ wrote  
You won't need to out here. They plug into the OBD-2 port and so long as you don't have more than 1 code stored, you'll pass. Mike should be able to set your tune up for the removed cat. They don't do visual inspections out here. I passed with my focus (no cats, motor swap, turbo).
Thanks for the info. If I can get it coded by Mike to get me through AZDOT then I think it's a done deal. I'm waiting on an email response from him. Also might try I stalling myself. I really miss working on my cars.
BMWFB02 wrote
Do you have a link to the diy
PhoenixRising wrote
Thanks for the info. If I can get it coded by Mike to get me through AZDOT then I think it's a done deal. I'm waiting on an email response from him. Also might try I stalling myself. I really miss working on my cars.
:thumsup: YES, DIY FTMFW!!!
here are a couple DIY links that helped me

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299777

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319115&highlight=shiblanor
Suh-weet!
^^ if you need any help Jimmy, I'd be glad to lend a hand or a tool.