Alekshop DIY M3 GTS project build

04-12-2015

Hujan wrote
That's what the $26k was for.

No, he said they sourced a new engine then build it. I asked how much a conversion would cost. If they have to start from a new engine then they have to pay back a value on my current engine which is not old. That's how true professionals do it. That's how Dinan does it.

04-12-2015

Beautiful build.

04-12-2015

nthretourNAFTW wrote
No, he said they sourced a new engine then build it. I asked how much a conversion would cost. If they have to start from a new engine then they have to pay back a value on my current engine which is not old. That's how true professionals do it. That's how Dinan does it.

Where did you see that?

The donor car for the conversion was a brand new Lime Rock Edition E92 M3 with a new engine. I believe they just pulled it, bored and stroked it, then re-assembled it.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=799746&page=16

04-13-2015

Sales@Alekshop wrote
Now that we had the car we had to decide on how to replicate the higher HP 4.4L motor used in the GTS. We decided to not only match the additional factory power but go beyond with a 4.6L build and custom cams. We contacted our friends at ESS Tuning who confirmed that tuning would not be an issue so we got to work. We designed all of the internals, acquired a stock motor and built it out, when finished we were pretty excited how it all came together.

The first post of this thread implies that they acquired a donor engine.

04-13-2015

Hujan wrote
Where did you see that?

I believe they just pulled it, bored and stroked it, then re-assembled it.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=799746&page=16

Wrong. you were not attentive to the OP and getting in the way of my question.
Dinan stroker engine that's where. The conversion is done on a previous customer's engine, they swap with yours which becomes the base build for the next customer. Confirmed that weeks ago with a dinan stroker customer. They pay you some money back for your engine after they verified it's in good condition so you pay for the "conversion" only. Not a full engine when you already had one !
Dinan is by far the most professional in this market to judge others by.

Question was already asked to Alekshop. Apparently they're not answering.
If they take your engine and still charge you $26K it's a joke.

04-13-2015

BlueCoyote wrote
The first post of this thread implies that they acquired a donor engine.

correct

04-13-2015

nthretourNAFTW wrote
Wrong. you were not attentive to the OP and getting in the way of my question.
Dinan stroker engine that's where. The conversion is done on a previous customer's engine, they swap with yours which becomes the base build for the next customer. Confirmed that weeks ago with a dinan stroker customer. They pay you some money back for your engine after they verified it's in good condition so you pay for the "conversion" only. Not a full engine when you already had one !
Dinan is by far the most professional in this market to judge others by.

Question was already asked to Alekshop. Apparently they're not answering.
If they take your engine and still charge you $26K it's a joke.

i know for a fact they had a donor engine, i saw it when i was at the shop with a friend.

$26k + core is a pretty standard price for a stroker. Its in league with Dinan and RD's pricing.

Dinan charges you $26k + $10k core. So you essentially pay $36k. Once you send them your old motor, they return $10k - which puts your cost at $26k ( same price as alekshop)

04-13-2015

ilikebmxbikes wrote
i know for a fact they had a donor engine, i saw it when i was at the shop with a friend.

$26k + core is a pretty standard price for a stroker. Its in league with Dinan and RD's pricing.

Dinan charges you $26k + $10k core. So you essentially pay $36k. Once you send them your old motor, they return $10k - which puts your cost at $26k ( same price as alekshop)

Yes they got a bare engine for it. Not the one in the car.
I stand corrected about Dinan pricing.. The true priced value of the stroker is actually $26k + $10k = $36k or $26K for the conversion (turning over your previous engine). A +40% cost increase over the oem engine for only 15% more volumetry. clearly not remotely justifiable by even the most enthusiasts.

04-13-2015

nthretourNAFTW wrote
Wrong. you were not attentive to the OP and getting in the way of my question.
Dinan stroker engine that's where. The conversion is done on a previous customer's engine, they swap with yours which becomes the base build for the next customer. Confirmed that weeks ago with a dinan stroker customer. They pay you some money back for your engine after they verified it's in good condition so you pay for the "conversion" only. Not a full engine when you already had one !
Dinan is by far the most professional in this market to judge others by.

Question was already asked to Alekshop. Apparently they're not answering.
If they take your engine and still charge you $26K it's a joke.

Regardless of what Alekshop said, it doesn't matter as you've seen. Conversion or core exchange, the price is the same . . . as I told you three days ago.

It's a very labor intensive process and the parts (crank, pistons, rods, cams) are expensive. What did you expect?

04-13-2015

Hujan wrote
Regardless of what Alekshop said, it doesn't matter as you've seen. Conversion or core exchange, the price is the same . . . as I told you three days ago.

It's a very labor intensive process and the parts (crank, pistons, rods, cams) are expensive. What did you expect?

no it's not the same. conversion means your old core remains your possession: price $36K.
exchange means they take your old core: price $26K

Parts of engine should cost less than full engine. They're charging through the roof for the build 'labor' that's what.

04-13-2015

Hujan wrote
Regardless of what Alekshop said, it doesn't matter as you've seen. Conversion or core exchange, the price is the same . . . as I told you three days ago.

It's a very labor intensive process and the parts (crank, pistons, rods, cams) are expensive. What did you expect?

true - core or conversion. the price is the same for the parts and labor. $26k after core or $26k to convert your existing engine which you would have to provide prior to the build. If it was $26k no core, no conversion - that would be a $16k stroker.

But back on original topic - This GTS clone is badass.

04-13-2015

BlueCoyote wrote
The first post of this thread implies that they acquired a donor engine.

We purchased a separate stock motor for this build. We wanted to have a second motor on hand for future builds. The cost of a motor build like this would require a motor core exchange.