New 1/4 mile world record trap speed for E92 M3 @ 140.11 MPH

Nice pics of the engine build.

All that engine porn is NSFW...

dogbone wrote

Congrats on pushing the limits with this build!

At the end of your third race, the announcer seemed pretty excited. What was he talking about?

(I love seeing sedans being modded! I have an E90 M3 that is a gutted, caged supercharged (VF620) track car. Everyone---regardless of brand---is always offended when a sedan is doing faster lap times than their coupes! haha! Good luck with your upcoming adventures! Getting into the 9's would be an awesome accomplishment!)

Thank you!

He was so excited cause my 1/4 mile ET (10,85) was the fastest ET for any RWD car ever participated in Unlim 500+ competition (from 2009)... Anyway, that ET is not fantastic for you in US, but for our ugly roads that is awesome:bow:

Unlim 500+ was initially 1mile race competition, afterwards 1km and then 1/2 mile, therefore 1/4 mile prepared tracks are not suitable for us, and the special places are needed to organize the competiton. And that special places always had the ugliest asphalt that you can imagine...

filinm3 wrote

Thank you!

He was so excited cause my 1/4 mile ET (10,85) was the fastest ET for any RWD car ever participated in Unlim 500+ competition (from 2009)... Anyway, that ET is not fantastic for you in US, but for our ugly roads that is awesome:bow:

Unlim 500+ was initially 1mile race competition, afterwards 1km and then 1/2 mile, therefore 1/4 mile prepared tracks are not suitable for us, and the special places are needed to organize the competiton. And that special places always had the ugliest asphalt that you can imagine...

Nice! Yeah, he sounded very excited.

I gotta say, your car was just ferocious in chasing down those 4-wheel drive cars that were leaping off the line.

So, what are you most concerned about in the future? 1/4 mile? 1/2 mile? Trap speeds? Max top speed? All of the above?

I'll be interested to hear about your future runs! Hopefully, you can find the perfect pavement!

dogbone wrote

Nice! Yeah, he sounded very excited.

I gotta say, your car was just ferocious in chasing down those 4-wheel drive cars that were leaping off the line.

So, what are you most concerned about in the future? 1/4 mile? 1/2 mile? Trap speeds? Max top speed? All of the above?

I'll be interested to hear about your future runs! Hopefully, you can find the perfect pavement!

I am mostly concerned about the engine life...)

As for the results and records, I would say that this car could be 1 mile trap speed champion amongst all BMWs ever.....)))) But there is no competition to measure and document that result... Anyway, I would try to obtain every possible distance/time result using my Racelogic.

Max top speed is the same as previously (338-339 per GPS) cause gear ratio is STOCK) And I am reaching that top speed soooo fast))))))

The most interesting and real is 1/2 mile trap speed record. But in US you are measuring this from 50 kmh and that is only the dream for me here: only standing 1/2 mile competition. And even that competition is not planned for this year. So, would try to use Racelogic and measure the speed.

So, the only competition where I could take part is 1/4 mile drag race on professional surface, which should be organized 9-10 September. The goal is under 10,5sec and 142+ trap speed. Will see)

filinm3 wrote

I am mostly concerned about the engine life...)

As for the results and records, I would say that this car could be 1 mile trap speed champion amongst all BMWs ever.....)))) But there is no competition to measure and document that result... Anyway, I would try to obtain every possible distance/time result using my Racelogic.

Max top speed is the same as previously (338-339 per GPS) cause gear ratio is STOCK) And I am reaching that top speed soooo fast))))))

The most interesting and real is 1/2 mile trap speed record. But in US you are measuring this from 50 kmh and that is only the dream for me here: only standing 1/2 mile competition. And even that competition is not planned for this year. So, would try to use Racelogic and measure the speed.

So, the only competition where I could take part is 1/4 mile drag race on professional surface, which should be organized 9-10 September. The goal is under 10,5sec and 142+ trap speed. Will see)

good luck, with good 60ft times i think you will achieve your goal in the 1/4.

Patrón wrote

good luck, with good 60ft times i think you will achieve your goal in the 1/4.

Thank you! Hope to see 1,75 60ft: this should result in 10.4s...

filinm3 wrote

1SICKM wrote

Congrats! Easy 9 second car utilizing LC.

Thank you!!!

I would like to think so, but LC is simply impossible on that car: all my runs are made with MDM on, cause shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear with boost climing up to 1,26-1,27 bar is soooo interesting trick which I personally could not control to stabilize the car and not to loose acceleration...

So, MDM only and no LC...

But on that competition we decided to raise idle rmps to 1,500 instead of 800, and that helped a lot in making stable and quality starts on 1/4 mile.

I would have my next 1/4 runs in 3 weeks on very well prepared track with glue. If all is OK and the car performs from power perspective like last week, new trap speed 1/4 WR (and maybe, time also) would appear for sure;)

filinm3 wrote

1SICKM wrote

Congrats! Easy 9 second car utilizing LC.

Thank you!!!

I would like to think so, but LC is simply impossible on that car: all my runs are made with MDM on, cause shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear with boost climing up to 1,26-1,27 bar is soooo interesting trick which I personally could not control to stabilize the car and not to loose acceleration...

So, MDM only and no LC...

But on that competition we decided to raise idle rmps to 1,500 instead of 800, and that helped a lot in making stable and quality starts on 1/4 mile.

I would have my next 1/4 runs in 3 weeks on very well prepared track with glue. If all is OK and the car performs from power perspective like last week, new trap speed 1/4 WR (and maybe, time also) would appear for sure;)

Why not lower your launch rpms? I understand your making more power but what happened at 3500 rpm launch vs 5500?

1SICKM wrote

Why not lower your launch rpms? I understand your making more power but what happened at 3500 rpm launch vs 5500?

LC is just out of my mind since 2014 when I had VT3 and 680-690 whp. The car is uncontrollable at 2nd and 3rd gears, and at 1st gear - just waste of time...

I've never been on prepared tracks like you have in US, and you never been on our competitions to understand what we both are talking to each over:D

At 1st gear I am not launching the car either, I just pushing the pedal at half and shifting at 5,000-6,000 rpms to avoid significant wheel spin... Even with that technique, DSC is heavily working in MDM-mode at 1st-2nd gear shifting...

However, I did 3runs where my 0-100 kmh were 3.5-3.6s, which I consider just perfect for this car bearing in mind all that problems above.

On my new competition I would investigate the surface and try to start with DSC off, and if all is ok, I would think over LC:cool:

I also looked thru Dragtimes.com yesterday and discovered interesting fact: my 1/8 time and trap are so poor in compare to bmw's with much less HPs and to my 1/4 trap...

For example, some SC E9x M3 had 107-108 trap at 1/8 and 131-133 trap at 1/4, while my car had 105 at 1/4 and 140 at 1/4. This is riduculos!!! I was just staying at 1st 1/8 mile and then made additional 35 mph at 2nd 1/8 mile, while other cars made 23-24 mph... Yep, my power is opened at the middle of 4th gear only and the car begins running like a blast:confused0068:

Interesting to analyze all this in that manner: feeling myself as Bolt calculating the number of steps to be done for WR:D:D:D

thanks for coming through with the pics. that is the first polished head i've seen of the s65! i can't help but wonder what gains the port/polish alone would yield.

filinm3 wrote

1SICKM wrote

Why not lower your launch rpms? I understand your making more power but what happened at 3500 rpm launch vs 5500?

LC is just out of my mind since 2014 when I had VT3 and 680-690 whp. The car is uncontrollable at 2nd and 3rd gears, and at 1st gear - just waste of time...

I've never been on prepared tracks like you have in US, and you never been on our competitions to understand what we both are talking to each over:D

At 1st gear I am not launching the car either, I just pushing the pedal at half and shifting at 5,000-6,000 rpms to avoid significant wheel spin... Even with that technique, DSC is heavily working in MDM-mode at 1st-2nd gear shifting...

However, I did 3runs where my 0-100 kmh were 3.5-3.6s, which I consider just perfect for this car bearing in mind all that problems above.

On my new competition I would investigate the surface and try to start with DSC off, and if all is ok, I would think over LC:cool:

I also looked thru Dragtimes.com yesterday and discovered interesting fact: my 1/8 time and trap are so poor in compare to bmw's with much less HPs and to my 1/4 trap...

For example, some SC E9x M3 had 107-108 trap at 1/8 and 131-133 trap at 1/4, while my car had 105 at 1/4 and 140 at 1/4. This is riduculos!!! I was just staying at 1st 1/8 mile and then made additional 35 mph at 2nd 1/8 mile, while other cars made 23-24 mph... Yep, my power is opened at the middle of 4th gear only and the car begins running like a blast:confused0068:

Interesting to analyze all this in that manner: feeling myself as Bolt calculating the number of steps to be done for WR:D:D:D

filinm3 wrote

1SICKM wrote

Why not lower your launch rpms? I understand your making more power but what happened at 3500 rpm launch vs 5500?

LC is just out of my mind since 2014 when I had VT3 and 680-690 whp. The car is uncontrollable at 2nd and 3rd gears, and at 1st gear - just waste of time...

I've never been on prepared tracks like you have in US, and you never been on our competitions to understand what we both are talking to each over:D

At 1st gear I am not launching the car either, I just pushing the pedal at half and shifting at 5,000-6,000 rpms to avoid significant wheel spin... Even with that technique, DSC is heavily working in MDM-mode at 1st-2nd gear shifting...

However, I did 3runs where my 0-100 kmh were 3.5-3.6s, which I consider just perfect for this car bearing in mind all that problems above.

On my new competition I would investigate the surface and try to start with DSC off, and if all is ok, I would think over LC:cool:

I also looked thru Dragtimes.com yesterday and discovered interesting fact: my 1/8 time and trap are so poor in compare to bmw's with much less HPs and to my 1/4 trap...

For example, some SC E9x M3 had 107-108 trap at 1/8 and 131-133 trap at 1/4, while my car had 105 at 1/4 and 140 at 1/4. This is riduculos!!! I was just staying at 1st 1/8 mile and then made additional 35 mph at 2nd 1/8 mile, while other cars made 23-24 mph... Yep, my power is opened at the middle of 4th gear only and the car begins running like a blast:confused0068:

Interesting to analyze all this in that manner: feeling myself as Bolt calculating the number of steps to be done for WR:D:D:D

Your numbers for Drags Racing is good ,but it isn't enoth,I Stay 0,123 Sec tô Break Binhs 1/8 World Record,With Stock engine!

Weyne Masters wrote

Your numbers for Drags Racing is good ,but it isn't enoth,I Stay 0,123 Sec tô Break Binhs 1/8 World Record,With Stock engine!

Man, we are playing serious games here: 1/8 mile is a child or Tesla distance:D

What is the reason to heavily modify RWD car and go for 1/8, where the car is deemed to go for 1 mile???

I am not worrying about 1/8 and 1/4 times either. The goal is speed at 1/4 mark and time with speed at 1/2 mark.

You could come to Russian tracks and would see the changes in your 1/8 records:D:D:D

filinm3 wrote

Man, we are playing serious games here: 1/8 mile is a child or Tesla distance:D

What is the reason to heavily modify RWD car and go for 1/8, where the car is deemed to go for 1 mile???

I am not worrying about 1/8 and 1/4 times either. The goal is speed at 1/4 mark and time with speed at 1/2 mark.

You could come to Russian tracks and would see the changes in your 1/8 records:D:D:D

in the US, a lot of people race the 1/8 because that's the only tracks available in their areas and the speeds are less than 1/4 racing...in 1/4 racing the 1/8 is also a measurement to make calculations as well. I follow roll racing 1/2 mile and mile because most cars I like are not setup for 1/4 racing where the first 60ft is crucial. to set up a car correctly for 60ft usually means it's not going to turn well (AWD doesn't count )

Patrón wrote

in the US, a lot of people race the 1/8 because that's the only tracks available in their areas and the speeds are less than 1/4 racing...in 1/4 racing the 1/8 is also a measurement to make calculations as well. I follow roll racing 1/2 mile and mile because most cars I like are not setup for 1/4 racing where the first 60ft is crucial. to set up a car correctly for 60ft usually means it's not going to turn well (AWD doesn't count )

I read you, sir...

However, neither of those "projections-calculations" could propose that with 105 trap at 1/8 the car would end up with 140 trap at 1/4...:D:D

I hope that the upcoming competition on the prepared track would result in more or less logical combinations of 1/8 and 1/4 time/trap speeds....

filinm3 wrote

Weyne Masters wrote

Your numbers for Drags Racing is good ,but it isn't enoth,I Stay 0,123 Sec tô Break Binhs 1/8 World Record,With Stock engine!

Man, we are playing serious games here: 1/8 mile is a child or Tesla distance:D

What is the reason to heavily modify RWD car and go for 1/8, where the car is deemed to go for 1 mile???

I am not worrying about 1/8 and 1/4 times either. The goal is speed at 1/4 mark and time with speed at 1/2 mark.

You could come to Russian tracks and would see the changes in your 1/8 records:D:D:D

filinm3 wrote

Weyne Masters wrote

Your numbers for Drags Racing is good ,but it isn't enoth,I Stay 0,123 Sec tô Break Binhs 1/8 World Record,With Stock engine!

Man, we are playing serious games here: 1/8 mile is a child or Tesla distance:D

What is the reason to heavily modify RWD car and go for 1/8, where the car is deemed to go for 1 mile???

I am not worrying about 1/8 and 1/4 times either. The goal is speed at 1/4 mark and time with speed at 1/2 mark.

You could come to Russian tracks and would see the changes in your 1/8 records:D:D:D

I am in Brazil the tracks are nasty!
And 1/8 miles is for real pilots one mistake and you are done!
1/2 mile is good but it's all about the car WHP nothing about pilots skills!

Weyne Masters wrote

I am in Brazil the tracks are nasty!
And 1/8 miles is for real pilots one mistake and you are done!
1/2 mile is good but it's all about the car WHP nothing about pilots skills!

Ok, you are a real pilot, man!:bellyroll:bellyroll

For you, just to understand, 1/8 mile is 99% of track quality and 1% of skills.

Attached is the result of yesterday's race event on 1/4 mile at fully prepared track. I missed that event(((((

You could see M4's result at 1/8 mile: 6,76s@109mph... That's amazing!!!

However, this particular car with the same "pilot" had 7,58s@103mph 2 weeks ago on that shitty track where I trapped 140mph at 1/4 and 105 at 1/8...

That is just obvious to all that powerful RWD car needs good glue and not good "pilot" to perform at 1/8 mark.

Pilots are in F1 and in the air, and we are daily drivers only;)

filinm3 wrote

Weyne Masters wrote

I am in Brazil the tracks are nasty!
And 1/8 miles is for real pilots one mistake and you are done!
1/2 mile is good but it's all about the car WHP nothing about pilots skills!

Ok, you are a real pilot, man!:bellyroll:bellyroll

For you, just to understand, 1/8 mile is 99% of track quality and 1% of skills.

Attached is the result of yesterday's race event on 1/4 mile at fully prepared track. I missed that event(((((

You could see M4's result at 1/8 mile: 6,76s@109mph... That's amazing!!!

However, this particular car with the same "pilot" had 7,58s@103mph 2 weeks ago on that shitty track where I trapped 140mph at 1/4 and 105 at 1/8...

That is just obvious to all that powerful RWD car needs good glue and not good "pilot" to perform at 1/8 mark.

Pilots are in F1 and in the air, and we are daily drivers only;)

filinm3 wrote

Weyne Masters wrote

I am in Brazil the tracks are nasty!
And 1/8 miles is for real pilots one mistake and you are done!
1/2 mile is good but it's all about the car WHP nothing about pilots skills!

Ok, you are a real pilot, man!:bellyroll:bellyroll

For you, just to understand, 1/8 mile is 99% of track quality and 1% of skills.

Attached is the result of yesterday's race event on 1/4 mile at fully prepared track. I missed that event(((((

You could see M4's result at 1/8 mile: 6,76s@109mph... That's amazing!!!

However, this particular car with the same "pilot" had 7,58s@103mph 2 weeks ago on that shitty track where I trapped 140mph at 1/4 and 105 at 1/8...

That is just obvious to all that powerful RWD car needs good glue and not good "pilot" to perform at 1/8 mark.

Pilots are in F1 and in the air, and we are daily drivers only;)

Sorry about you missed!
Good lucky for next Time !
By the way your 100-200 4,7 it is very nice ,congratulations!

Guys,

Today I did 10.41@140.28! Outside temps were 32-34C...

Tomorrow is the 2nd day of competition, would try to improve in the morning with 22-24C temps....

filinm3 wrote

Guys,

Today I did 10.41@140.28! Outside temps were 32-34C...

Tomorrow is the 2nd day of competition, would try to improve in the morning with 22-24C temps....

Well deserved broski! Very happy that the car is running well and that it's setting records!

filinm3 wrote

Guys,

Today I did 10.41@140.28! Outside temps were 32-34C...

Tomorrow is the 2nd day of competition, would try to improve in the morning with 22-24C temps....

Am I right to understand that those numbers both are new 1/4 world record trap speed and ET for E9x M3?)

DLSJ5 wrote

Well deserved broski! Very happy that the car is running well and that it's setting records!

Thank you, Man!!! Thank you for ALL you've done for me!!!

filinm3 wrote

filinm3 wrote

Guys,

Today I did 10.41@140.28! Outside temps were 32-34C...

Tomorrow is the 2nd day of competition, would try to improve in the morning with 22-24C temps....

Am I right to understand that those numbers both are new 1/4 world record trap speed and ET for E9x M3?)

Yes as soon as you have the official time press you have the recor 1/4 mile with non stock engine like a pro mod !
By the way what was your 1/8?

Weyne Masters wrote

Yes as soon as you have the official time press you have the recor 1/4 mile with non stock engine like a pro mod !
By the way what was your 1/8?

Will have all the papers tomorrow)

1/8: 6.87@109.86:cool: