Get the Flock out of here!

pz619 wrote

Flock hatred might be what unites the world. I never heard from anyone in the general public that is fine with this. Across all spectrums.

JABCAT wrote

Yes to your question (cafes, grocery store, etc.) There are also town social media pages/groups, neighborhood groups, etc., and every time something happens it's always blamed on people of color by the "melanin-deficient" i.e., white majority. Our area is all over the news for the recent & constant anti-Indian, anti-Muslim & anti-Hispanic vitriol. They don't try to hide it.

In my neighbood specifically, my next door neighbor came out - in his border patrol or whatever uniform & started harassing Hispanic workers I had remodeling my home. I had to go out there and tell him to get the F off my property. They've also called the police on another neighbor who was having his trees trimmed by, you guessed it, Hispanic landscapers.

There's also a concerted effort to not sell homes in my neighborhood to people of color. One neighbor took their home off the market because they said the only offers they got were from Indian families. The house has been sitting empty for 2 years now. They'd rather keep paying a mortgage on a 4,000 sq ft house, than sell to a non-white family. Not kidding.

There was a recent heroin ring busted. Immediately in all these online groups it was "I bet it's those trailers or aprtments over by the train tracks, we need to bulldoze them & get those people out of our town". Yeah turns out it was the rich white kids in the million $ neighborhood.

By cult I mean all the botoxed, lip-injected stay-at-home wives driving their white Escalades who act as if they need to protect the town from any "outsiders".

There are more counseling offices & child/adolescent counselors in a 4 sq. mi radius in this town than I've seen anywhere I've ever lived. That should tell you something.

gonzo wrote

Don't put words in my mouth so as to appease your mindset.
Thanks.

Mikey240 wrote

What a flocking mess this could easily become. .

Overall, I’d still rather there not be cameras everywhere though. I don’t even like people having them all around their houses now, pointing at everything. Everyone thinks they’re Tony Montana….

ShocknAwe wrote

You're describing a tightly regulated government owned system operated only when ordered and which otherwise remains OFF. Like a drone pilot.

Sounds great, passes the bill of rights sniff test.

FWIW there have been issues for decades with this kind of thing. Closed circuit security cameras and the footage they record. Same thing, but infinitely larger scale.

Car-Addicted wrote

The 4th amendment has always been open to interpretation. Remember the "probable cause" vs "reasonable suspicion" searches on traffic stops? I accept that on public roadways we yield some of our right to privacy but only to a point. Tracking seems way out of bounds, also these camera's are often not located on road and parking lots but in residential neighborhoods, college campus's and business locations. I also don't think this has as much to do with tracking cars as it has to do with "crime prevention". This becomes a clear case of camel's nose under the tent.
So easy to sell this surveillance to town councils, college administrators, police departments, ect.
Stops crime
reduces high speed chases
recover stolen vehicles
reduces work load on police departments
higher conviction rates

But IMO the cost is too high.

The greater the power, the more dangerous the abuse.
Edmund Burke

Car-Addicted wrote

Things that make you go Hmmmm
Cops Are Being Told To Hide License Plate Readers From Drivers And Reports
August 7, 2026
"A Wapello County Sheriff’s Office policy obtained by 404 Media states: “DO NOT MENTION ALPR USAGE TO THE OCCUPANTS OF THE VEHICLE” and “DO NOT MENTION ALPR USAGE IN YOUR REPORT OR COMPLAINT UNLESS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.”

https://www.carscoops.com/2026/08/flock-alpr-police-secrecy/

ShocknAwe wrote

You're describing a tightly regulated government owned system operated only when ordered and which otherwise remains OFF. Like a drone pilot.

Car-Addicted wrote

This just keeps getting worse:
BLACKROCK IS QUIETLY TURNING STREET LIGHTS INTO SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS

While everyone was focused on tearing down Flock cameras, a much bigger player was already rolling out the replacement. Axon, one of the hottest companies in the surveillance market, is now partnering to turn regular street lights into smart cameras. No new poles needed. They just convert the lights you already drive under every day into: • License plate readers • Live streaming cameras • AI that recognizes vehicle make, model, color, damage, bumper stickers, and more Counties are canceling Flock contracts and spending tens of millions on Axon systems instead. Here’s the part most people don’t know: About 25% of Axon is owned by BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street. The same firms that have openly talked about “forcing behaviors.” Axon’s CEO has said their goal is to build a society where crime “just doesn’t make sense anymore” through constant monitoring. He also made $164 million in a single year. While people were busy removing Flock cameras, this more advanced, harder-to-detect system was already being installed in plain sight. Street lights → cameras. BlackRock ownership. AI vehicle tracking. Stealth rollout. Is this just “public safety”… or the next phase of the surveillance grid?