AA Stage 2+ & VT1 535

tazam3 wrote

A 3rd build? What are you smoking? Either you like the make things up (pretty obvious at this point) or you have some messed up friends that tell you bs. I wont even get into the details of my car, I definitely wouldnt even compare it to yours. So don't flatter yourself.

Cant get it tuned? My standalone power curves are MUCH smoother then yours. LOL, keep chasing power? I already make over a 1000hp unlike your < 600whp. Actually I made more power then you with my bolt on supercharger kit 6 years ago when ESS couldnt even make a kit... I ran a 123mph trap (with my manual transmission AA supercharged S54 :lol:no DCT excuse here) at LACR 6 years ago! Now some ESS cars can hardly break 117mph traps?

Its the same story with ESS and some of their loyal payroll customers, they make up things. Its just a car, dont let your insecurities manipulate you to make things up or constantly bash others.

I think everyone knows this but if a Mustang can make me look like im going in reverse, that same Mustang will make your car look 10x times worse.

How much TQ does your V8 have again lmao?

Just pathetic man, someone told me your cool in person but I dont believe that with your constant pathetic posts trying to make people look bad with nonfactual comments.

Mason3 wrote

I feel like people are pretty smart and able to see through some of these posts. I also realize that it is human nature to want to defend people you feel are friends. The AA fans are feeling like they are being attacked because people are saying their kits don't make the power, etc. The ESS fans are feeling like they are being attacked because people are saying their intercooler design isn't as good or their trap times aren't fast enough, etc.

If you take a step back and examine just the facts, it becomes pretty clear.

At the end of the day, when you are alone in your home deciding which kit to put on your $60K+ E90/E92 that you spent your hard earned money on (and you also don't want any problems with hardware, tune, motor, etc), ESS clearly has the win. People decide with their money. They put their money where their mouth is. Most people have decided that the ESS kit is the most reliable and best designed kit out there for the E90/E92. That is a fact not an opinion.

Disagree with me? Check these threads first:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436070

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=485447

Mason3 wrote

I feel like people are pretty smart and able to see through some of these posts. I also realize that it is human nature to want to defend people you feel are friends. The AA fans are feeling like they are being attacked because people are saying their kits don't make the power, etc. The ESS fans are feeling like they are being attacked because people are saying their intercooler design isn't as good or their trap times aren't fast enough, etc.

If you take a step back and examine just the facts, it becomes pretty clear.

At the end of the day, when you are alone in your home deciding which kit to put on your $60K+ E90/E92 that you spent your hard earned money on (and you also don't want any problems with hardware, tune, motor, etc), ESS clearly has the win. People decide with their money. They put their money where their mouth is. Most people have decided that the ESS kit is the most reliable and best designed kit out there for the E90/E92. That is a fact not an opinion.

Disagree with me? Check these threads first:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436070

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=485447

akh23456 wrote

thanks Roman for you response but how do you explain all these bolt on M's with different transmissions putting up similar times or even the same? Does a sc change things that much that dct gains 5-10 mph in trap speed.

akh23456 wrote

thanks Roman for you response but how do you explain all these bolt on M's with different transmissions putting up similar times or even the same? Does a sc change things that much that dct gains 5-10 mph in trap speed.

chris s wrote

With all due respect Akash, why bother trying to compare apples to oranges?

It's a discussion of Supercharged M3's...

akh23456 wrote

so your saying that just because this forum has a list of some the guys that have these kit that by pure numbers the kit is better.( Opinion not fact.)A fact would be that they have more kits that AA on this Forum. Their are so many people that own both kits that aren't on the forums did you account for that? So if both company had a certain amount of kit out just for example Aa had 100 kits and Ess had 95 you would say Active is better because their 5 more people with the kit right?

akh23456 wrote

With all due respect Chris, If a Dct and 6-mt trap similar time with similar bolt ons and tune how does it affect the car that much with a sc?

m33 wrote

Do you have a vaste clue what it takes to gain 5mph ?? Or even 10mph in 1/4 ??? 100 whp = 10 mph give or take a few ponnies , do the math on stock cars and do the math on full bolt on's and SC'd E9x M3's and tell me what you come up with ...

akh23456 wrote

With all due respect Chris, If a Dct and 6-mt trap similar time with similar bolt ons and tune how does it affect the car that much with a sc?

chris s wrote

And again...you're discussing cars with 100's of HP over stock...I would imagine all sorts of things can change at that point.

I guess I just don't get where it's even remotely relevant to the discussion. Anyways, carry on...

akh23456 wrote

so you saying that drew numbers are shitty because he only got 130. So a Dct with Drew's setup should be making 135 compared to my numbers here at atco. I would love to see that.

m33 wrote

Drew trapped 132+ on a vbox , and drew goes down the strip spinning in first and second with DR's , in your video your not even breaking tires loose .... Just saying ....

I can't wait to see how we stack up , you should do some 60-130 to see what you clock , my best was a 7.9 and izzy was a 7.8 .

img wrote

Heres the thing,with all that much power diiference hes still got a DCT which will make up for some of the HP so i think it will be a great run.just to see how a DCT cars do against more powerful cars.

Akash,i hope you understand that these are friendly runs and we arent tryin to creat problems,met you and i think you are a cool guy and id hate to see cars getting between gentlemen.if you think that these runs will make a friendship go sour,theres no need for that.life is short !!!!

akh23456 wrote

i know their alot of "group thinkers" here i am just asking question i never knocked on either kit. If you look back to my post before today i have only said good things about both even thought i own a AA kit. I respect all you guys that have Ess kit or gonna get them but why is their so much hate? I met M33 and Img this weekend am i a dick in person? Have i been a dick today( probably) but i am just asking questions and trying to learn and find out why you guys have such high hp and such low traps except drew and Mike. Why does a 6mt and dct with bolt on put down similar times but when you add sc why it isn't the same?

akh23456 wrote

i agree Img i am not trying to be a ass or anything i respect both you guys alot and i hope you understand that. My car can only do what it can do and that how i live my life. I dont care if people are faster than me their is always someone faster. But i am just trying to understand some things you know. I think doing these run will make us better friends because we aren't on the forum.