does acceleration from stop seem sluggish?(M-DCT)

HammerM3 · 05-15-2008, 11:12 PM

I still have my old SMG M3 and the throttle response is very immediate. Now in the new M-DCT, for some reason it feels "sluggish" when stepping ont he gas....almost like there was a little lag. I'm on sport plus mode power wise and still the same. Anyone else have this ?

MDCTFTW · 05-16-2008, 12:26 AM

Seems a liiiiiiiiiiiitle bit, especially with the power button off. How many miles on the car? To be honest I haven't played with the sport throttle settings too much yet though.

e46e92love · 05-16-2008, 02:39 AM

Would love to hear more about this as I am ordering with M-DCT........

dangoma · 05-16-2008, 02:51 AM

It is, but you have to remember this is NOT an automatic car, its a manual car with an automatic setting.
If you want an automatic then get a 335.

mattwhite · 05-16-2008, 09:19 AM

Acceleration never feels sluggish to me in any mode. But with the throttle set to normal, it does take a pretty good push on the pedal to get the car to move. This goes away if you put it in sport mode.

HammerM3 · 05-16-2008, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dangoma

It is, but you have to remember this is NOT an automatic car, its a manual car with an automatic setting.
If you want an automatic then get a 335.

I'm comparing it to my SMG M3 not an automatic. the old SMG felt a lot more responsive in terms of throttle effort , was just wondering if other people felt that.

rai · 05-16-2008, 09:52 AM

what tranny modes are you talking of? Is it the same in every mode?

phoenixbmwlife · 05-16-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HammerM3

I'm comparing it to my SMG M3 not an automatic. the old SMG felt a lot more responsive in terms of throttle effort , was just wondering if other people felt that.

It's possible its cause you're not feeling the jerk forward that comes with SMG.

Mx3 · 05-16-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mattwhite

Acceleration never feels sluggish to me in any mode. But with the throttle set to normal, it does take a pretty good push on the pedal to get the car to move. This goes away if you put it in sport mode.

+1
Not sluggish for me at all.

atcga · 05-16-2008, 10:59 AM

No sluggish here but in the softer modes the car feels just like a manual does when easing out the clutch. You can dial that out if you prefer.

swamp2 · 05-16-2008, 11:03 AM

I agree that there is a feeling here to be noted. It seem right on initial take off that the clutch can be slow and it takes quite a bit more gas than a "normal" car to get things going. I'm not sure I agree that higher Drivelogic modes or throttle setings affect this. I need to do some more testing. More discussion would be great.

MDCTFTW · 05-16-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mattwhite

Acceleration never feels sluggish to me in any mode. But with the throttle set to normal, it does take a pretty good push on the pedal to get the car to move. This goes away if you put it in sport mode.

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I agree that there is a feeling here to be noted. It seem right on initial take off that the clutch can be slow and it takes quite a bit more gas than a "normal" car to get things going. I'm not sure I agree that higher Drivelogic modes or throttle setings affect this. I need to do some more testing. More discussion would be great.

My feelings exactly on these two statements. So far DCT is great for me. I had my doubts coming from a MT, but this is awesome.

nusevad · 05-16-2008, 11:58 AM

no sluggish feeling from me, maybe its because you havnt hit full torque yet?

HammerM3 · 05-16-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by atcga

No sluggish here but in the softer modes the car feels just like a manual does when easing out the clutch. You can dial that out if you prefer.

dial it out? how?

HammerM3 · 05-16-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

I agree that there is a feeling here to be noted. It seem right on initial take off that the clutch can be slow and it takes quite a bit more gas than a "normal" car to get things going. I'm not sure I agree that higher Drivelogic modes or throttle setings affect this. I need to do some more testing. More discussion would be great.

I agree, that's exactly what I'm talking about

atcga · 05-16-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HammerM3

dial it out? how?

Sport mode

HammerM3 · 05-16-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by atcga

Sport mode

while sport mode does quicken the throttle response, the lag of starting to power is still there. It's almost like the clutch is being slowly fed out...

swamp2 · 05-16-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MDCTFTW

My feelings exactly on these two statements. So far DCT is great for me. I had my doubts coming from a MT, but this is awesome.

You agree with two mostly contradictory posts?

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footie · 05-16-2008, 03:28 PM

The DSG was exactly the same when pulling away from a stop. Not quite the same as an automatic but not that far away, at least once you are on the move all of this sluggishness goes away completely.

HammerM3 · 05-16-2008, 03:44 PM

yeah it sorta does, but when i was merging with traffic i almost got rear ended cause i kept thinking it was the SMG I was driving. It really took like a second before it gave me full power.

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MDCTFTW Lieutenant Colonel 148 Rep 1,972 Posts Drives: E92 DCT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal iTrader: (0)	Seems a liiiiiiiiiiiitle bit, especially with the power button off. How many miles on the car? To be honest I haven't played with the sport throttle settings too much yet though. __________________ MDCT ... so you can drive and eat a hamburger at the same time.
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atcga Private 8 Rep 56 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	No sluggish here but in the softer modes the car feels just like a manual does when easing out the clutch. You can dial that out if you prefer.
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swamp2 Lieutenant General 722 Rep 10,404 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	I agree that there is a feeling here to be noted. It seem right on initial take off that the clutch can be slow and it takes quite a bit more gas than a "normal" car to get things going. I'm not sure I agree that higher Drivelogic modes or throttle setings affect this. I need to do some more testing. More discussion would be great.
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HammerM3 Private First Class 39 Rep 114 Posts Drives: 2008 AW DCT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SF iTrader: (0)	yeah it sorta does, but when i was merging with traffic i almost got rear ended cause i kept thinking it was the SMG I was driving. It really took like a second before it gave me full power.
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